Wandering star

There was no outstanding actor Bogdan Stupka

There was no outstanding actor Bogdan Stupka

Death and mortar are two things incompatible. “That old woman with a scythe is afraid of me as a feature in a“ mortar, ”the actor laughed, who treated faith with heart revelation.

People's Artist of the USSR.

No, just folk. Own equally for Ukraine and Russia. Perhaps none of the most popular Ukrainian performers were considered to be so much here. He possessed not only the gift of reincarnation ... He dived headlong into the proposed circumstances, into someone else's character - with such dedication, self -substance that sometimes he scared partners and directors. Naturally-Pre-Rev.

This is not accepted today. Especially in the so -called stars baking about a separate Grimvagen on the site, personal hairdresser and container with individual diet metering. Yes, according to conscience, a mortar was one of the last stars of a large style. Of those selfless creators who dedicated his novel “Wandering Stars” to Sholom Aleichem. Roman, so beloved by the actor. By the way, it was in the administrator Lviv Theater of the Young Spectator, the young mortar dangled for his watch, absorbing the air of time. In the very administrator, where, fleeing the pogroms, he lived Sholom Aleichem. Then this air will fill the lungs of his ingenious tave thrush ...

His theatrical acting (I don’t want to write “career”) - a story for the Hollywood Bayopic: from a student of a locksmith, after an acting studio playing in the local drama of the “rear legs of a horse” to Tevyu and Yeshua, King Lyr and Faust, Oedipus and Arthur Wi ...

Actor of a rare and rarely demanded tragic talent. At the same time, not afraid of the blinding colors of the farce, the Brecht frank irony, the game is in a smash. And including completely different registers, deafening silence and internal pain in the "Old Fine landowners."

Cinema used the talent of a mortar not too widening. Yes, a little less than a hundred 90 roles! But the actor himself considered his best work on the fingers. Among them, the Ukrainian nationalist Oreste in the poetic and seditious in Soviet times “White Bird with a Dark Mark” Yuri Ilyenko, cowardly Kerensky in “Red Bells ...” Bondarchuk, the irreconcilable Trofim of Lysenko in “Nikolai Vavilov” Proshkin, the impenetrable head of the shamans family in Oleg Pogodin, old Don Juan in the “house” Kino -Greatness Kira Muratova "Two in one." But probably, the works of Bogdan Stupki in the films “driver for faith” by Pavel Chukhrai and “Own” Dmitry Meskhiev became the most striking multi -color roles in modern Russian cinema. And the point is not even in the prize “nicknames” and “eagles”, which flew to the feet of neither the glory nor the love of the public, the lying. And the fact that with the departure of the whole generation of large actors of the penny, the grandiose and unpredictable talent of Bogdan Stupka, no one could compete.

In the year, when the mortar played his main movie by General Serov’s loving father in the “driver for faith” and the most difficult counterpoint of the character of the headman in the military drama “Ozings”, we talked for a long time about acting temperament, about his ministerial portfolio. We publish excerpts from this conversation ...

- Today, Mochalov’s passion and temperament are not in demand.

- Agree. But I always liked the artists of the "large smear": Ulyanov, Urbansky, Chkhikvadze. In Ukraine - Kuchma, Krushelnitsky. Now everything seems to play under a surdinka, such special things are inserted into our pipes that reduce emotion. In the orchestra, there is also Fort.

Without the Theater, the fashion, a new truth of life. Mumble under your breath as you want. My teacher Boris Fomich Tyagno pulled: “Stupach, the same as in life, but for heeled heels ...”.

- A set voice, temperament does not interfere in the roles of small people: Uncle Vanya, Tevye, Afanasy Ivanovich? Do you remove the sound?

- I am engaged in reincarnation. Many artists do not like this. I change not only the gait - the course of thoughts. This is a Procrustean bed, violence against oneself.

- When you played Oedipus, were you blind?

- On the contrary, he sank to the finale. At first I play a tyrant struck by the power virus. Power, vanity and there are signs of Oedipus's blindness, veils in front of our eyes ...

- So we approached the solo party in the orchestra of the works of Stupka, to the topic of power. You played dozens of her faces: kings, military, political leaders. Three hetmans: Khmelnitsky, Bryukhovetsky, Mazepa. It’s not boring to play “bosses”? What is the difference between the self -awareness of the boss in life from the fact that you have to play on stage?

-To the Shakespearean statement about the life-theater of the pan, he added: "And everyone plays the role that is set from above." I played the role of the Minister of Culture for a year and five months. Notice, without rehearsals. Threw - survive. I was interested. I saw the faces of people whom I had never met before.

-But it is impossible only to “play the minister”, they expose: “The minister is naked.”

- Gradually delved into the essence of problems.

- And the ministerial portfolio?

- They gave a dozen portfolios. Ministers love to make gifts. I had a birthday. From 9 am to 9 pm I received guests in the office. We walked like in the mausoleum. So many flowers, sensation: you lie in a coffin, listen to the obituary in your own honor. It was a difficult day. Tense.

-Could you really change something in the cultural life of the country? Or played the role of a wedding general?

- Could. For example, in 2000 he submitted to the Verkhovna Rada a draft law on philanthropy, which neither in Russia nor we have. Until now, they have not been accepted. For art, he would become an invaluable help. Sorry, there was not enough time. But now I am using my connections and dating for the theater.

- Enriched as an actor?

- Yes, this is Klondike. Generals, ministers, professors. The experience is invaluable. When he came to Pavel Chukhra to play the general, he knew more than others about him. My hero is the commander of the ground forces of the Black Sea Fleet in Khrushchev’s times. Fantasized with the director a picture of the role, psychological nuances. But all this has already embroidered “on the basis of” personal experience. It is important for me to see a person. I remember playing Uncle Vanya. It was 37 to me. The director says: “He is ten years older, but he did nothing in his life, worked for Professor Serebryakov, fell in love with reciprocity. You - on the contrary: family, success, you are too well -being. " I come to Lviv. Parents set the table. Drank. Then my mother begins to lament: “I had to become a big actress. At the age of 18, in Ukrainian, Imper (the Society of Education) I played the mother of Marusi Boguslavka. What a success was! And I'm with pots, borscht, cutlets. " Father tries to sniff her: "Maria, you loved me." "Here, through stupid love, she remained anyone ...". I look: tears flow down the cheeks - yes, this is Uncle Vanya! I know how to pronounce: “I could be Schopenhauer, Dostoevsky .... Life has disappeared ... "

- You successfully played people lost, not confident (the actor was awarded the state prize for the role of Uncle Vanya), which is why these roles became the topic of creativity? Why in the lyre, Oedipus, Richard, Don Juan, do you primarily examine the disease of the thirst for power? The path of destruction by the authorities of the ruler.

“I saw such satraps ... It's funny to me when a person is swollen before our eyes.” Who are you, why did you come up with like this? The first half of their lives people are busy with what they decide: what to come up with. When he became a minister, he came to play the first performance, suddenly my partners changed in faces, in intonation, in the movement: “We don’t know how to keep yourself with you now.” I answer: "Not I have changed, it is you changing."

- What is easier to lead: culture or one, albeit the main, theater?

- To be honest: the ministry is easier. The team works for you - 250 people. In the theater - 450. Terrarium of like -minded people.

-Did you play General Serov at Chukhrai in binding by the 60th or outside the context of time?

- I saw such generals, for example, Batov, commander of the Carpathian military district. Skinny, always walked. He refused the car. He will lay his hands, goes. The protection is far away. For the role, I offered the details of the time, but the director decided that it did not matter.

It was important to show the simplest human feelings. Love for a daughter that he does not show. Sentimentality is impossible. Just what - tears. External stiffness - armor, a mask of internal defenselessness. From all sides, the KGB was overlapped. Nobody cannot be trusted. Everything is predetermined.

- Bogdan Stupka is an actor not only Ukrainian, but Soviet ... in the sense of an actor of Soviet cinema. He played in the films of Bondarchuk, Proshkin, Pchelkina. Recently, you have been accused of Russophobic moods in connection with the image of Mazepa in the Ilyenko film, then in anti -Ukrainian - in connection with the image of Khmelnitsky in the Hojesti Hoofman film “Fire and Sword”.

- I do not score my head with stupid accusations, I am engaged in creativity. Yes, they called me, they strongly recommended not to play ... Maybe those who called are right in their own way: Senkevich Khmelnitsky has a drunkard. There is a derogatory shade in relation to the Ukrainian people. Thanks to Hoffmann, everything softened somewhat. But the more they called me, the more I wanted to play. When the film was released, in Ukrainian society he was called Propolsky. In Poland - pro -Ukrainian. And I realized: well done Hoffmann - made a real, touching for a living picture. Nonsens: the Poles fell in love with Khmelnitsky, the very one that ruined the power of the Commonwealth.

- Around your Mazepa, the scandal blazed for more than a year.

- I love scandals. There is a French comedy where the director of the theater claims: "The scandal in the theater is success: it means that the viewer will go."

And in these works I thought about an indestructible craving for power. Money and power grow from one root. Why do they go to power? To have money. More money. Oedipus repeats: “... about power, about money. How much do you give rise to envy. ” Do you want to become a king? President? Farm? We need money. The essence does not change. In Lesya Ukrainka in the "Stone Lord" Donna Anna orders: "Go upstairs. You will become a commander. You will have more than one sword. Thousands of swords. " The philosophy of her story about Don Juan is the path to power. It doesn't matter which one. Above the crowd, over women. Having come to the top of power, the hero will look at himself in the mirror and is afraid: "This is not me, it is him." Power changes the face.

- You were not afraid like this?

- I continued to play performances in the ministers, act in films. For the role, I was repainted in a fiery red color. I go to the ministry, the secretary loses consciousness. Every Tuesday is a meeting of the Supreme Council, Government Day. You need to sign something from the prime minister. I go up. He looks: "This is what kings can." I was the only one without a tie, in a turtleneck.

“You starred at Krzysztof Zanussi, Warde, Hedgehogs Hoffmann.” Today you are one of the most popular actors of Russian cinema. How to keep your breath during a creative marathon?

- The following to the Lenin Testament: I study. I adapt. Here, Meskhiev was difficult at first in his own. I play the old man from the times of the German occupation. Doli Winchester United. Dirt. Swamp. Mosquitoes. And I still think in Ukrainian. When you play Russian, you need to boil for at least two weeks in an environment. The role is complex. There is an internal conflict - the viewer is curious: what is gone there. The partners are wonderful: Khabensky, Garmash, already the fifth film together. And then I, the Ukrainian old man with this Winchester, disappeared. Something yelling, braided my tongue. I feel - shame. They greatly float into the mud, swamp.

- You, a professional, after a high degree of stage existence, take off the makeup ... and how do you feel?

- During the rehearsals of Lira, heart problems began. After the 25th show, I had to take off the performance ... You know, I torn. Work in the theater is hard work. When he played the master, the devilry did not let go. Once, after the first act, the pressure was measured: 240 by 140. The injuries were tortured. Three years of such a misfortune - and wrote a statement ...

Bogdan Stupka remained the actor until the last day. He retained the childishness and the impossible sincerity of the external cunning (so, he complained to me, why is Muratov forcing him to play next to the non -professional?). She was spent mercilessly. And hesitantly believed in ... the proposed circumstances. After the heart surgery, he told loved ones that he would like to die on the same day as his mother - on the night of July 23 to 24. He was gone on July 22 ...