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Anton Nosik Internet figure
Hands off Syria
30 August 2013, 18:41
The British parliament voted against military participation in a Syrian meat grinder. In my opinion, a very correct decision. Until now, the Syrians were well able to kill each other without outside help - they do not need to help or interfere with this. Sooner or later in Syria, either cartridges or people will end - and friendship will win.
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Break the vicious circle
Harry Kasparov: Anton Nosik published an ugly post on Syria
Update: 02-09-2013 (11:11)
On the Echo of Moscow website, the famous blogger Anton Nosik published an ugly post in Syria . The position "Let the Syrians destroy each other, and we will look at this from" flawed from all points of view: the look at the Arabs "through the sight of the Sniper Israeli rifle" not only unacceptable from a human point of view (in Syria the peaceful population perishes daily), but also potentially threatens the national security of Israel itself.
In the existing situation, it would be more reasonable to send large -scale humanitarian aid to the camps of the Syrian refugees in Jordan, thereby Israel could try to prevent these camps into incubators for Islamic extremism and terrorism. In addition, it is obvious that each new round of the bloody confrontation of Assad forces with the opposition will lead to an increase in the most radical and uncontrolled forces. It is necessary to break this vicious circle as soon as possible.
Even if you leave the moral aspect aside, such statements of a blogger of a nose are an example of historical amnesia. Exactly 75 years ago, Great Britain and France already behaved in a similar way, when, under the Munich agreement, the Sudeters handed over to Hitler, which soon led to the occupation of Czechoslovakia and actually predetermined the tragic development of further events. The famous phrase: “I brought the world to you”, said by Prime Minister Chamberlain upon returning from the Munich conference in September 1938, received hot support from the public opinion of Great Britain, however, as you know, a year later she turned around for the country in the Second World War.
One of the main history lessons is that the moral position is often strategically the most correct in the long term.
Anton Nosik Internet figure
Answer to the grandmaster about Syria bombing
03 September 2013, 09:24
Ex-champion of the world in chess G.K. Kasparov sent me a virtual glove .
Flattered.
I accept the call.
Harry Kimovich seems ugly my position on Syria. It seems to him that the humanitarian bombing of Syria by the USA and NATO allies are vital today. And Kasparov compares the “short -sighted” position of those who offers foreign powers not to interfere in the Syrian fratricide with the position of Chamberlain and Daladier in Munich in 1938.
I will answer by points:
1. As for 1938, it was not a question at the Munich conference about intervention or non -interference in the internal affairs of the Third Reich. It was only about the consent of Great Britain and France to Hitler's aggression against a sovereign country . Therefore, the Syrian analogy is lame on both legs. And by the way, it is available to light twisting inside out. Because the reason that Hitler used to justify his complaints against Czechoslovakia is completely identical to the one that supporters of foreign intervention in Syria is raised today. It was just about the suffering of the peaceful, civilian population - the Sudeten Germans. It was their Führer who intended to save from Czech atrocities. On the territory of Czechoslovakia, the Party of Sudeten Germans, an analogue of today's Syrian opposition, operated. Her leader Konrad Henlyine met with Chamberlain and Daladier, told them about the death of the peaceful Sudeten population at the hands of the “Benesh regime”. And they pretended to be believed. In this sense, the recent refusal of the UN Security Council to authorize the intervention in Syria is not a repetition of Munich, but a decision of the exact opposite nature. The same pretext that Hitler successfully used in 1938 in Munich to justify aggression against the sovereign Czechoslovak Republic, in 2013 did not roll at the UN Security Council. But, I repeat, this is not an argument in my dispute with Mr. Kasparov, but just a demonstration of the anti-fans of the Fomenovsky method of turning history inside out, with a rough substitution of dates, geography and reliably known facts. The fate of the adventure with international intervention in Syria is not decided in Munich of 1938. She is decided in New York, Washington, London, Paris and Brussels of 2013. For all the rhetorical shaking of analogies with Munich-38, their place is in the toilet of the station toilet.
2. Both the USA and the EU countries - Western democracy. The question of their participation in certain military operations is decided by democratically elected parliaments, the composition of which reflects the will of most citizens. Mr. Kasparov, taking into account his communist party-casual past, may not like it, but it suits me quite in. The UK parliament, which rejected the bill on the participation of this country last week, received support for 71% of citizens, as evidenced by the survey conducted by the BBC . A survey in the USA, conducted by NBC News, shows that only 21% of Americans agree with the approval of the conformity of Syria to the national interests of their country , and only 27% share Harry Kimovich's religious faith that any foreign bombing can improve the situation of Syrian residents. But 79% are convinced that President Obama does not have the right to give an order to bombing Syria without the sanction of Congress. In France, where more recently, 2/3 of the population spoke out in support of the sending of troops in Mali, 64% today oppose the country's participation in the Syrian Civil War . And when NATO Secretary General Anders Fog-Zmussen says that the structures of this alliance will not be involved in the attack on Syria , this never surprises me. And it is only surprising that Harry Kimovich is inclined to blame the north -Atlantic alliance of your humble servant in this position. In fact, this is not my fault. This is democracy, a grandmaster. I understand that neither in the CPSU, nor in the Central Committee of the Komsomol, nor in the Central Committee of the Komsomol of Azerbaijan, you were not taught such words. But it is better to study them late than never. Democracy is when, in addition to your opinion, there is also the opinion of the majority. And it is more important than yours.
3. If you leave aside formal issues of bourgeois democracy and turn directly to the events of August 21, 2013, which Harry Kimovich seems to be a sufficient occasion for Syria bombs, then there is also some catch. The fact is that no data confirming the involvement of Assad regime in the use of chemical weapons in 12 days from the moment of the gas attack has not been presented to anyone. And categorical allegations that chemical weapons were used, and that it was Assad that applied it precisely then, 12 days ago. And to this day, we do not have a single evidence, except for the honest word of the American special services . I mans, and I am glad to believe them for a word, but one small circumstance interferes. 10 years ago, they promised me to present the same evidence about the OMP in Iraq. Then, by the way, I had never doubted that presentation of material evidence was a couple of days. After all, Saddam used Bov at least twice during his reign: in the north against the Kurds and in the south of the country against the Shiites. In both cases, it was about a hundred extra thousand victims. But 10 years have passed, and the US special services have never submitted any materials that justify the conclusion about the presence of OMP in 2003. Today, the consensus in the civilized world boils down to the fact that since 1991 Iraq has not had any OMP . Although the US intelligence agencies swore that Saddam had such OMPs. Perhaps Harry Kimovich has some special reasons to believe the US intelligence services more than his own eyes, but this argument his argument does not seem convincing to me. Who deceived me 10 years ago, from that I demand evidence today. And they are not, like 10 years ago. Let them swear further by my mother, and I am still waiting for evidence, and I understand from the ten -year experience that I will not wait.
4. Harry Kimovich accuses me of looking for a conflict in Syria through the sight of a sniper Israeli rifle . I will help him to expand the scale of the bloody slander. I really look at the situation in Syria through the sight-but not a rifle with some kind of shit, in the Connecttick of the assembled, but of the Israeli military helicopter, bomber, Dimon nuclear reactor.
This is true, and I am never ashamed of her. Because, unlike you, the grandmaster, I never hid my nationality, did not change my father’s surname, did not try to serve the collars of the anti -Semitic regime for the sake of career growth. But I served in the army of Israel’s defense, which I also never are ashamed and I do not hide. For me, Syria is an enemy territory, and the worse they are there, the better we are. I am a proud Jew, and I have no reason to divide the Syrians into the "good" Wahhabis and the "bad" Alavites. They are all the same to me as a hostile beast. Let them kill each other for health, if only this civil war did not leave them money to finance the Hizballah attacks, Hamas and other satellites of the Assad regime. The longer this pathic situation lasts with the Civil War, the better for Israel. As for the recommendation of Harry Kimovich to fill up the Syrian refugees camps with Israeli cookies of a six -pointed form - thanks, of course, for the idea. But we have already flooded the gas in such cookies on the most do not indulge. And there, in response, Hamas was chosen, who explained to the electorate that our humanitarian aid was a sign of the weakness of the Zionist regime and its early fall. Further, he easily, at the course, exchanged our cookies for Kassama, which he then fired at Israeli kindergartens.
Want to give Israel advice, Harry Kimovich? Live in Israel for starters, serve in the army, sniff, if not gunpowder, then Humus, at worst. And then your "extraneous advice" somehow smells very bad.
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Cooperative mat
09/06/2013 08:30
Visitors to the Echo of Moscow site enjoyed the verbal shootout between Harry Kasparov and Anton Nosik. She revealed not only the advantage of the famous blogger in wit.
The former chess king outraged King Runet’s approach to the situation in Syria. Kasparov called the Dosik proposal to calmly watch “through the sight of the Sniper Israeli rifle”, as the Syrians destroy each other. According to Kasparov, it would be more reasonable to direct large -scale humanitarian aid to Israel to the Cyrian refugees camps in Jordan. The ex-champion of the world saw the parallel between the current attitude of Israel towards Syria and ... the behavior of Great Britain and France, who short-sightedly giving Hitler the Sudeters. Harry Kimovich’s tone of the great historian instantly said: “One of the main lessons of history is that the moral position is often strategically the most correct in the long term.”
Only the incurable self -confidence of Kasparov can explain the challenge to the intellectual duel of a professional pen, more educated and much more witty. A nose without a shadow of respectfulness replied that he was occupied by a prismal position, because he was never ashamed of his Jewry, did not change his father’s surname and did not serve the anti -Semitic regime for his career. Having mentioned his service in the Israeli army, he defiantly stated: “For me, Syria is enemy territory, and the worse they are there, the better we are.” Regarding the Kasparov proposal “to fill up the camps of the Syrian refugees with Israeli cookies of the six -pointed uniform” Nosik noted that Israel had already provided humanitarian aid to Gaza, after which Hamas and shelling “Kasams” received. The famous blogger recommended Kasparov before being taught Israel, live there, serve in the army and smell, if not gunpowder, then Humus.
In the brilliant renewal of the nose, I do not agree with only one thing: our army is completely “reinforcing” in the person of a whimsical chess player. And I would advise Kasparov not to meddle in the spheres where his debut developments are powerless. The grandmaster is quite read, owns English, Boyko appears in Russian, but he would laugh at the amateur who would teach him how to play chess. He has long been putting on his laughing stock, promoting the historical “theory” by A. Fomenko. If anyone does not know - this famous ... Mathematician teaches that the history of mankind is much shorter than it is considered. One of his “discoveries”: the ancient Jews did not exist, but there was a similar people in the Balkans!
The “shortening” of history cannot but impress a person who, in childhood, adolescence and youth, could not deeply study this subject. Kasparov, according to his coach A. Nikitin, provided financial support to the “scientific group” Fomenko. He was not at nothing he wrote an enthusiastic preface to the book of A. Fomenko, G. Nosovsky “Introduction to a new chronology”.
Fomenko does not deny the Munich conspiracy. But it is not clear what Kasparov found in common in the behavior of Chamberlain and Netanyahu. Israel does not fit to the surrounding Fuhrers.
It was in the analysis of the Middle Eastern conflict that chess experience could help Kasparov. He knows that if opponents are fighting only for victory, “humanitarian considerations” are useless. Kasparov himself never made the weaker rivals of gifts as a good grandmaster from the Aksen's story. And where did he catch illusions about the benefits of kindness in relation to aggressive enemies? When the Armenians were killed in Baku, he did not offer the pogroms of massive humanitarian aid, but preferred to sit on the plane and take the main part of his property. When his political ambitions were cooled in Moscow in Moscow, he did not teach the morality of the riot police dubsing him and faded abroad. By the way, Kasparov, who studies the Middle East on CNN programs, does not know that Israel provides medical care (very expensive) Syrians who suffered in internecine war!
If you try to fit Kasparov’s views into a wider context, it will immediately amaze how his attitude to Israel coincides with the sermons of our left, assuring that it is worth satisfying the requirements of terrorist neighbors - and they will instantly love us.
The misunderstanding of the Middle East of the situation - or rather complete indifference to it - is characteristic of all Russian democrats both left and right. They generally poorly orient themselves in what is happening outside of Moscow. When the demoniated Shevchenko erupted the nasty things about Israel on the RTVI channel, which until recently considered the opposition, there is simply no one to stop him. Cute TV presenters, like a custody or Zhuravleva, know too little and cannot catch him on distortions and lies.
The opposition in Russia does not have a moral advantage over the Kremlin, because Putin scolds only for domestic politics and is indifferent to his shameful friendship with dictators-contributions. We will have to observe how the Kremlin finishes Russian democrats - even if Kasparov shout from France or America that our position is immoral.
Author: Yakov Shaus
Source: Yacovshaus.com
http://mnenia.zahav.ru/articles/3313/kooperativny_mat
Anton Nosik Internet figure
Why is the solution of the Syrian problem Obama too tough
06 September 2013, 08:26
In my recent post about Syria, the attention of the hottest debaters caught on the phrase:
They are all the same to me as a hostile beast
At the same time, one part of the audience was delighted to escape from a subject conversation about Syria to discuss my “racism”, and the other, on the contrary, began to approve and explain this statement in the most categorical racist expressions.
The fault here is entirely mine, like my phrase, I wrote it, and I never refuse.
But if it is still worth explaining
Then nothing is worth explaining.
There is a civilian population of Syria. Which suffers from shooting, massacre, hunger, disease, from heat and cold.
You can consider this population to be lambs, or by goat. In any case, "ordinary Syrians" are hostages in the battle between the current authority and applicants for the throne.
But not one of the problems of these hostages can be solved by a missile trap.
And there are warring parties: Bashar Khafuzovich al-Asad, a butcher and son of a butcher, and the leaders of the opposition opposing him. Assad is certainly a fierce beast. This may be a surprise for all those Western powers that have persuaded Israel for decades to give him Golan heights, but for those who are not in the tank, with Assad, everything is well clear. He is a dictator of the Arab country. As long as he does not feel a threat to his regime, builds hospitals, schools and kindergartens in his country, ralves subjects with promises of an ambulance with Israel and generously finances terrorist cells in each neighboring states. As soon as he felt a threat to the regime - he takes tanks and armored vehicles on the street, begins to shoot at the so -called "his people." Which is never your own, in fact, because the dictator in such countries, usually from one tribe, and most subjects from another. And there is a situation in the country for some reason to aggravate, all these races are immediately remembered by both sides.
I have no kind words for Assad Jr., although he is a former colleague in a civilian specialty. In Syria today, hundreds of thousands of people dream of taking a former beloved president as a last way - and I will not be surprised if the prayers of these people are soon heard.
But for the Syrian opposition, I also have no kind words. The opposition there is exactly the same animals as Assad Jr. and Assad Sr.. Not the Egyptian botans from Tahrir, who gave power to the Muslim brothers in the name of higher democratic values, and not the grandchildren of Atatur, peacefully protesting on Taxima against the Islamic fencups of the Turkish Nationalist. The Syrian opposition is guided by cannibals, and not figurative, but literally, as we all know, the sense. It is for this reason that there is no “moral” difference between the support of Assad and the support of his enemies. Whoever won there, the result will be the mass mass of the losers. Moreover, it will not be combined by combatants, but entire villages and city quarters - this is how it is customary to restore the constitutional order in that world, part of which is Syria.
There is exactly one way to the international community to prevent the massacre of the civilian population in Syria. To do this, you need to enter the ground units there and make a complete disarmament of all the warring parties - both Assad’s army and all its current opponents. And for many years I will leave there the military administration, which would be responsible for everything: not only for the safety of the population, but also for medicine, for education, for infrastructure, for the budgets of local authorities, etc. If you do this, then this is really a guarantee from the genocide on both sides. And the precedent has a well -studied, well -known. This is the occupation by the Israeli aggressor of Judea, Samaria, Gaza sector, East Jerusalem and Golan Heights. Thanks to this occupation, oppressed by the residents of the notorious West Coast, neither the Sabra with Shatila, nor the Damur massacre, nor the Black September did not have the opportunity. I repeat for clarity: to protect the civilian population, such a foreign occupation should be total and unlimited, and the disarmament of all local men - one hundred percent. One has only to retreat from this scheme in small details (for example, leave the trunks and declare them with allies) - Saber and Shatila are immediately obtained.
But Barack Obama is more likely to eat his children, the beloved tie and the Portuguese water dog Bo, which will offer Congress and the voter such a settlement for Syria, in which America would first have to send an infantry there, having lost thousands of soldiers in ground battles, and then leave a garrison of several tens of thousands of contractors for a total of a total streets. So the option of real demilitarization of the Syrian thugs is not discussed anywhere in the world, even in theory. It is only about symbolically groaning heels or a dozen buildings in the area of Damascus, offhand the Assad and his army announced by the stronghold. Then bomb communications, that is, roads. Constantly shuddering from the thought that the crazy rocket is about to fall into the school building, to the embassy of a neutral country or in a infirmary. The agencies will send color photos of children's corpses around the world, and you will begin to understand that. This is the most extreme point to which the “humanitarian bombardment” can reach, taking into account all the previous experiments of “reconciliation” in the region. And after this point, the warring parties will continue the dispute about whose tribe you need to cut out first, and whose then.
Therefore, it seems to me that it would be more reasonable to take the world's world community when the limits of readiness to participate in further events are completely known for certain.
As for my personal attitude to the inhabitants of Syria, then everything is simple here.
Israel and Syria are at war.
The first time Syrian troops attacked Israel on the night of May 14 to 15, 1948, a few hours after the proclamation of independence.
And since then, for more than 65 years, in one form or another, this war has continued, not only de jure, but also de facto.
The first 28 years, these were mainly direct clashes, and in 1976 Syria occupied the neighboring Lebanon, and turned the once flowering “Middle Eastern Switzerland” into a terrorist nest, from where it is not stopped by civil objects in Israel.
And, in my opinion, taking into account this well-known historical fact, it is completely normal for me to treat Syria as well as Soviet people, after June 22, 1941, treated Hitler Germany.
That is, without a special look at the norms of political correctness.
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