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Oleg Tarasov
Oleg Tarasov, the founding father of the Moscow Indian Label Solnze Records , is known for producing the most interesting and extravagant music in our country. Already for the publication of the first album “Messer Chups”, one could safely give Oleg a golden star of the hero of subcultural labor, and he has dozens of such releases.
Having lived almost all of the 90s in Hamburg, Oleg returned to Moscow at the beginning of the new millennium, one of the first to begin to bring bridges with the largest Western indie publishes and cultivate a good musical taste. His arsenal has an incredible amount of acquaintances around the world, a receptive mind and an excellent instinct for truly original projects.
Let's start with serious how the situation in the music market changed after the advent of the fiber -optic Internet?
This is a disaster, in the total mass, students degrade. The music is leveled to some virtual number of bytes on the phone or MP3 player.
Well, I think that this is probably happening not only in the metropolis called Moscow, but also a lot of where, in different countries and regions of our separately taken, there is that everyone who needs specifically some kind of music has already changed their audiophilism and fight not about what and how, on what medium, but in terms of informativeness. Of course, the MP3 format and other free -downloaded files are prevailing now. Now the carrier itself has already turned into some kind of object that people acquire in order to document their previous duty to the work of a team or artist. Now the musicians release albums in order to provide themselves with concerts, and not vice versa, as before, support performances by the release of the album.
And financially, further and stronger, the role that music labels used to occupy, now various content portals are engaged in the distribution of music files. And their musical policy is formed by people who used to be engaged in piracy, so to speak. In the days of allofmp3.com, there were a large number of other platforms for several years, within which music spread. Many of them closed many times, people moved from one place to another, and in fact they have already developed a resource there, which is now monetized.
The fact that a lot of money to such resources came at the expense of advertising, which ensured the availability of this or ino music, and preferably in large volumes and wide variety. All this turned into money, through banner advertising, sales of banners, now some of these resources are specifically selling music, and they can, more precisely, pay even for certain releases. I won’t be surprised if soon one of these portals firms will already be presented on stretch marks or in the glossy press, I don’t know, for example, “Mumiy Troll” or anyone. It already depends on how much the management of a particular team or publisher will find a common language with similar portals. Enough?
Not all Lookatme.ru users are aware of the legends of the domestic underground, so please tell us about your label.
Well, at the moment, it is difficult to call us an underground record-label. We are something between meaggers and underground labels. The Solnze Records label was founded in early 2000 with the first release of the project Oleg Gitarkin Messer Chups . Their album “Miss Libido” was released, and after that, a label was born, which initially set the propaganda of Gitarkin’s projects with Kostrov, that is, “knife for Frau Müller”, “Messer Chups”, solo projects of Kostrov ...
Well, after this, a certain number of musical projects were pulled out from our country (retro-futurists “Kim & Buran”, St. Petersburg electric rock project “Ferris Wheel”), and Western groups such as the Finns “Aavikko”, the Germans “Felix Kubin”, “Candy Hank”, “Lemon” British and British “The Voodoo Thrombone Quartet”, “End” from the United States. Even the other day, we had a fresh album of the Australian Electric Kabar “Monster Zoku Onsomb!”.
Some of these artists have long and tightly friends with knives, regularly found during a tour in Europe and even in the States. For example, take a New York musician Charles Pirars (End)-back in 2001, a modest intelligent young man came to the very first New York concert Messer Chups and handed Gitarkin his demo recording. After 4 years, he had already performed Moscow at the Abracadabra festival, and a year later he returned again with the fellow countryman Drop the Lime. In general, this was the first concert of Mash-UP / Breakcore Vanguard in Moscow. By that time, he managed to release albums on the respected Tigerbeat6 labels, belonging to KID606, and “IPECAC” Mike Patton, let’s say, labels not from the latter ...
What is happening in Solnze Records now?
At the moment, Solnze Records are three people. In addition to me, this is Mika Schlimmer SHLIMMER , who is responsible for the document management and for the promo, who often acts as DJ, in general-the heir, and Vova Schreider Shreyder , the designer of most of the covers of our releases, which not so long ago moved to us to Moscow from his native Abakan, and now works in the Tema Lebedev studio.
Well, what to say, there are a lot of interesting music, as always, surrounds us, not always everything turns out quickly, though. Recently, it has already appeared, but several releases have been inhibited. One of the most important is the Kim & Buran album, recorded at the beginning of this year, Flight B. They continue, in principle, the entire retro -futuristic line that has begun the previous three albums, although in the concert plan in their skill they have already expanded very much and now, perhaps, when we are talking about Kim & Buran, we should pay more attention to their concerts, a live performance.
In addition, now we have a joint with Acidsamovar Records release of the long -standing friends of our Leibla, the Australian team "Monster Zoku Onsomb!" , brothers in mind living in Brisbein. A very peppy cheerful Frickian team, the guides of Treha B, as I understand it, is enough, enough with a dull Australian outback, well, you yourself understand, in the ass of the world, a small industrial town. They hold their own programs on the local radio, arrange parties to their own, but they must go to a European tour once a year.
Schlimmer soon comes out his first Mix-CD, the material of which he rolled up in some of his ses-this is such a slightly grotesque, but at the same time cheerful music written by various electronics pioneers on the first electronic synthesizers, which, used to take half-rooms. In addition, in November, the long -awaited album of the garage group “The King Kongs” should appear, the real Masterpiece Garage/Surf music, the master of which was engaged in Yegor Letov. We plan to hold a full presentation of this album in the Ikra club, with the support of the promising All-Girls-Band "El Monstrino" . A kind of evening purebred rock and roll.
The next one, perhaps, should be noted very, just an unexpected decision for our label, to release the “Mass of Crimea” project, recorded by Zhenya of the greyhound (now the soloist of the project “DSH-DSH!”) On the texts of Denis Gustavovich Nana. I had such a great discovery when I got acquainted with the work of Denis Naan, the author of such projects as Mikhalna, Pay the Song, “Mass of Crimea”, “Gang of Vegetables”, “Children of Velorov” and the mass of others, of which the most famous project of Mikhalna, literally in the spring of this year, jumped into a noticeable orbit with the help of such a new medium as Myspace. Their reiting quickly reached the rendering of other wonderful well-known groups and, in my opinion, get 5,000 Fedoffs on Maspeis in six months-this is already a fairly strong success.
Another thing is that the producer standing behind this project, nicknamed the ball at one time, worked as the director of the development of the Myspace project in Russia and, apparently, took advantage of the official position for his own purposes. Maybe he was fired for this as a result ;-) For several months, large banners stood on the title of Myspace page and this attracted a lot of listeners who, very at the very least, provide the opportunity to perform weekly in the most diverse halls of Moscow.
Let me be distracted, here you need to tell the background. Creativity in this case takes place in a subsequent way: first Denis Naan listens to some kind of music and invents funny texts, after which a demo recording is made, as a rule, this happened using the voice of Zhenya of the Borzykh, and in the future some specific tracks are selected for further work. Here are a number of tracks taken to the Mikhaln project grew out of such a demo of recording, when it was necessary to achieve a lively sound of the team. Therefore, the familiar musicians with whom the project work simply rewritten, replayed music in connection with the fact that it should be a living team, now even no pop musicians want to speak under the plywood, everyone needs a live sound, a real group, and the use of a record with the minuses is already something indecent.
The mass of Crimea, produced on Solnze Records, is a conceptual project in which the spirit of music of the middle of the last century is aesthetically taken, it is the aesthetics of Claudia Ivanovna Shulzhenko, Orlova, Edith Piaf and Soviet patriotic films, which, apparently, are now in fashion, and even if we touch on the political situation, then a number of naan songs that have been sung by greyhounds, which sunk the greyhounds, which sunk the greyhounds Great for lifting a patriotic spirit.
Tell me about the modern political situation.
A: I'm talking about big politics, that Russia is now trying to regain the status, lost two decades ago, during the beginning of gang capitalism and so on, when no one had no one, everyone shared the lands and fought for power. Now there is only one power and it is already starting to fight at the planetary level. Our government, it seems to me, is already not enough power now, and Putin and Medvedev decided to fight with horns already with the states, I even like it, this is a fun topic.
I really like it.
That's the first time I heard that Medvedev was so right to blame the fan, I recalled such a naive enough song from the BG, from Raniah: “And our people will take places, under pain of imprisonment or legs, we will all listen to rock just!” Nevertheless, this is a sign. A sign that, perhaps, should not be given too much, but this is already such a type of one in general, with whom, perhaps, in his youth, any music loveder was friends, exchanged plates, walking together there to listen to vinyl or get some other new entry. Here, but I really have not heard about BG for three years ... Except in the advertisement of Sberbank, I have not heard it anywhere else. In principle, he is enough Open Mind, ready for experiments with anyone, God forbid, only if it interests him.
And what is a musical avant -garde now, where is it?
It can be everywhere, you can expect avant -garde solutions from anyone. Now it is already so blurry, the very concept of avant -garde is very relative. Regarding points and boundaries, the reference points and borders in which is, for example, the mainstream, and what is some kind of ossified formed style. In the same way, the guys who perform some well the same Breakcore, yes, so if you force these people to listen to only this music for several weeks, and then sharply put something deeply traditional, I don’t know, an acoustic lute processed by a couple of some lotions, or just a purely acoustic recording, they will think-“Oh! Wow, what kind of artists these are suddenly. ” People already live in their coordinate system and for them the vanguard can sound anything.
Tell me how you personally interact with music.
You can probably mention the first experiences of the music that I heard, when, as a preschoolenor, I got a radio and vinyl records in my hands and I really liked to do it, mess around, listen, do some scraper, when I noticed that sometimes the record began to sear and jump in the same place. Sometimes there were funny combinations when, due to the settled dust, the needle clogged and in the midst of the record of our pets of the then heaps suddenly occurred, that is, in fact, a magnifying glass appeared, which could repeat. I already liked to take some killed record and achieve the fact that she jumped in certain places, sometimes I broke it out with a needle there, scratched the strips on the plate and ensured that she jumps one way or another, as I would like to have an interesting Semple.
And then, at some moments in my life, I was affected by one music, then this love, affection passed, I can say, for example, that in recent years I have little listen to the work of Yegor Letov, I am more interested in other cultural layers, from Breikkor to the Jewish chanson, from the launge to the electric and the Rocabilly Surf.
Although twenty years ago he had a lot of influenced me, and for several years I was engaged in the promotion of Letov’s work and the release of his vinyl records, which is now becoming relevant again, and we are completely heard nearby that someone wants to release a vinyl record. And the fact of the release of it is already something completely trendy, to take the same The White Trainers Community -very young guys who, they must have released a 7-inch disk. These are faithful to style, Anglophiles, for whom to do the same as it was in the 60s - this is the coolest that they could do.
As far as I know, you are also part -time concert director of Messer Chups. Tell me about some kind of crazy story from your tours.
Yes, madness is permanent, somehow lucky to strange places. A few years ago, the Chups was set to play the Central Park of New York in front of several thousand of these Bigmatic freaks claiming world domination. By the way, then Vdovin played with Gitarkin together, and I remember the moment of returning - you will not forget! The Boeing taxi to take -off, announces take -off, offers to turn off the electrical appliances, Igor cuts out his Mac G4 and begins to pray erastously, and this is very much in my brain: a kind of modern fashionable guy is all in the poda, and such a height ... he apparently also left the guitarkin, if there was a demon, present, if there is a demon. Not to say the dominant - in the work of Gitarkin, it was contrary to the Orthodox worldview of Igor. But now he has become closer to the goddesses, sorry for the pun. I want to buy the soundtrack for the "goddess", it is interesting what he did there with songs hotly by everyone except me, my beloved singer, but I forget everything. I hope I love her too and will become closer to the people.
By the way, Oleg, outwardly you are very similar to Eduard Limonov. Before he released the Trotsky's mustache and a beard. You are not brothers by chance?
Now they tell me this somewhat less often, but before they often compared, I even changed my points of glasses because of this. Once, about ten years ago, Letov even introduced us to, led to the leader home in the Arbat apartment, which Yaroslav Mogutin left him. Dugin and late Natasha also noted this similarity, and party members in the NBP bunker on Frunzenskaya. And Kuryokhin somehow joked that I could act as a double. Sergei stayed in my Hamburg shortly before his entry into the NBP and just for the first time I read the Limonka, which my friends sent me and I myself brought from Moscow. So, I'm afraid, part of the St. Petersburg society can also blame me for something ...
The first message in the media about the death of Yegor Letov appeared on your blog on a living magazine, and then all the journalists referred to him, and wrote many different articles, and everywhere associated the name of Yegor with the phrase “Russian rock”, what do you think about this?
I believe that “Russian rock” can be forgotten, Egor’s one figure simply closes completely with all his work, all the significance, the concept of some kind of “Russian rock”. Next to Letov, the phrase “Russian rock” is just some kind of non-lapping, a label that can be forgotten about. Letov is a proportionate figure with a much larger scale of Russian art, Russian literature, Russian fine art, conceptual art, poetry, and the avant -garde of various kinds.
The places in which he managed to visit is remembered about him.
Regarding the style in general, the styles of music in which Yegor Letov created. This is a very wide palette, in the framework of for example, the communism project, he worked with conceptualism, of different properties, with a noise avant-garde, with a Noise and an electronic avant-garde, with Music Concrete, the only thing, perhaps, I can’t find any examples of the new-fashioned ones there in recent years such as electro and New Ryiva, well, in principle, God with them is not so important things and because of it, and because of it that is not so important things and because of it. Their cultural insignificance of them can be completely forgotten. Joke.
What is punk?
What is punk? All beyond public decency. In the late 80s - early 90s, I remember, the Laerte was called Panku. In those days, drinking everything that was on, including cologne. And it often happened that such immoderate consumption led to a fairly crazy acts, such as, for example, according to the result of a weekly binge, take and break into Vladivostok, take and leave, literally gather and go to Vladivostok the next day, return in six months, not six months, four months, but nevertheless. Ride in the luggage department of the intercity bus. Я поехал встречать знакомых в аэропорт, на автобусе, который шел от аэровокзала… Ничего лучше, чем забраться в багажный отсек и среди чемоданов доехать до аэропорта под полом пассажирского салона, я не придумал.
Я делаю всё, чтобы умереть молодым. Что это, мол, такое, 43 года скоро будет, а он все катается на велике, удовольствия у него такие молодежно-подростковые. А вот продажа пластинок это отдельная конечно тема, помимо продажи пластинок есть другие сопредельные области.
Распространение музыки в других форматах, продвижение музыки в рекламу, в кино, в частности, например, какие-то музыкальные композиции попадают на телевидение. Приходят к слушателю и зрителю с неожиданной стороны. Кто-то о новой музыке узнает из рекламы Orbit, или там Opel, спрашивает: «о, а чья это музыка там звучит?», а оказывается – музыка «Messer Chups».
Скажем, для музыкальной группы быть купленными для рекламы на телевидении за большие деньги это, конечно, успех, достижение какого-то весомого подтверждения твоего творчества. Но это не в плане как панк, это не связано.
По стилю, как можно считать панками далеко друг от друга стоящих музыкантов. Вот скажем breakcore – это сильно связанный по своей энергетике с панком музыкальный электронный стиль, который по сути можно считать родственником классического панка 70х, развившегося в новых условиях, когда доступность уже совсем других музыкальных звукоизвлекающих инструментов сделало возможным творчество уже не на музыкальной репетиционной точке, а просто у себя в спальне. Для этого уже не нужно искать место для репетиций; делать музыку увесисто говорящую о твоих мириадах мыслей и о политических идеях просто достаточно у себя на ноутбуке. Эти артисты в чем-то сильно выигрывают, в свободе самовыражения, они живут в другой системе координат. И для кого-то, например, понятие 8bit это уже целый мир, которого 30 лет назад еще не было.
