Pressing program 07.07.2007

Spy scandal in Formula 1

Valery Vinokurov: As you heard in the news, the next stage of the World Cup in Formula 1 was held in England. A week ago, he took place in France. And then, and now he won Kimi Raikkonen. But that's all I know about Formula 1. And, of course, I cannot fully comply with the discussion of the nuances and various details in the world of speeds and engines with Natasha Fedotova, for whom the race is of professional interest, I cannot. But the espionage scandal, which has erupted now in the “formula”, is also concerned about those who are not at all versed in vehicles. A week ago, you, Natasha, joked with Alexei Kuznetsov on this subject. And now, in my opinion, not to jokes.

Natalya Fedotova: I would say that it was such an unsuccessful joke. We laughed at the fact that Ferrari, supposedly, began an investigation about one of his oldest employees. There, the case of a certain white powder, supposedly, was filled into the Ferrari fuel tanks in front of the Grand Prix of Monaco. That is, it looked funny enough and it seemed that, against the backdrop of the relative failures of Ferrari, the team was just looking for some excuses of their failure. Everything was so ridiculous, believed in it with great difficulty. True, then I noticed Alexei that there was no smoke without fire, as it turned out that the next day the case took such an official character. First, local rumors appeared that Ferrari started the case of the sabotage of one of his employees, his name was already named - Nigel Stepni. It was announced that according to some information of third parties, the steppe was involved in the espionage case. True, then there were no details. But this week, which is now ending, on Tuesday, Ferrari officially confirmed the accusations against the steppin and stated that after an internal investigation he was fired from the team. Ferrari announced that the lawsuit was filed not only against this employee, but also against one of the employees of the British team McLaren. As you know, this is the main competitor of Ferrari this season.

Valery Vinokurov: I still don’t understand who was spying on, for what reason and what these spies wanted to find out?

Natalya Fedotova: It is stated that the mclaren team employee Mike Kaflin, the chief of the team designer, received a set of technical drawings from the steppe, a search was made in his apartment and it is stated that he was really found at his house “Ferrari”.

Valery Vinokurov: That is, McLaren, as it were, stole through these two people (but it always happens that someone sells, and someone, accordingly, buys) from Ferrari some drawings?

Natalya Fedotova: Moreover, the McLaren team did not deny the involvement of its employee. But they gave a guarantee that they did not use any of these documents in their developments, and are ready to provide a car of the International Federation of Motorsport for a detailed study to confirm that no developments were used.

Valery Vinokurov: That is, the team did not deny the fact of theft of drawings from its direct competitor?

Natalya Fedotova: Not the fact of theft, but the fact that the papers were discovered in the apartment of their employee.

Valery Vinokurov: But if they lie there, it is impossible to deny!

Natalya Fedotova: So far, it has not been officially announced what was specifically contained in these papers and how much this could be affected.

Valery Vinokurov: But if you declare, then everyone will find out. What then is the meaning of theft? After all, spies, when they get a secret, is the point in this, so as not to declare everyone.

Natalya Fedotova: Moreover, I also see no reason in the fact that the McLaren team this year, from the very beginning of the season, looked very strong and exceeded Ferrari. In principle, why did she need to steal any development?

Valery Vinokurov: The strengths always spy on the weak.

Natalya Fedotova: And I also want to remind you that Ferrari has been starting this investigation for a reason. In the history of this team, this was already similar in 2003, when three mechanics were accused of espionage in favor of Toyota. Then this was confirmed, and these employees even judged the deadline for punishment, in my opinion, a year and a half conditionally, was awarded to them.

Valery Vinokurov: Ferrari mechanics spied in favor of Toyota? And now, for some reason, Honda flashed. What does she have to do with it?

Natalya Fedotova: This is the further development of this scandal. A message appeared from the director of the Honda team, which, it turns out, both suspects turned to his team with the question of employment.

Valery Vinokurov: Who is this? One person from Ferrari, and the other from McLaren?

Natalya Fedotova: Yes.

Valery Vinokurov: Turned to Honda?

Natalya Fedotova: That they are not satisfied with the situation in their teams, and they want to find application to their abilities. Moreover, the abilities are very high. And since they used to work both in the Benetton team, they know each other well and are on friendly terms. Therefore, together they came to the head of Honda.

Valery Vinokurov: In general, it seems to me that this is a very dirty story that throws a shadow at all this enterprise, I call “Formula 1”, in general.

Natalya Fedotova: Yes, shadow, of course, throws a big one. Moreover,, unlike all other types of motorsport, where the main skill of the riders is and where the riders really wage on the highway among themselves, who wins, he wins, Formula 1 is completely different. There is the main one - the Cup of designers, that is, the struggle of high technologies, the struggle of engineering thought. Therefore, any such scandal causes great damage to the reputation, and this is understood by the leadership of the International Federation of Motorsport, which also joined this investigation.

Valery Vinokurov: You already forgive me as an amateur. So, but the skill of Michael Schumacher and Lewis Hamilton has nothing to do with it? Basically, do these motors and car decides everything?

Natalya Fedotova: Of course, the personality of the racer, his skill still affect the result, but if, for example, the same Michael Schumacher, to put some Toro Rosso behind the wheel, of course, he will not be able to show any results. Still, the gaps between these teams are too great.

Valery Vinokurov: But such masters as Schumacher won, speaking in different teams.

Natalya Fedotova: But, as it turned out, the teams were competitive. The same "Benetton" - the predecessor of "Renault" - was at the top. And Fernando Alonso won, and the team itself won the Cup of designers. I would say that fifty to fifty, after all.

Ukraine is preparing for Euro 2012

Maxim Maksimov: The victory of Sochi for many in Ukraine was as unexpected as the Polish-Ukrainian in the struggle for Euro 2012. Evil languages even claimed that in the hands of the Russians by this time there was nothing but a ton of pieces of paper with beautiful promises. However, we can recall how entrepreneurial Ukrainians sought the location of UEFA members with sandwiches with magnificent lard. Infrastructure in the country does not smell and still, in high state institutions, continue to sit, reveling in tempting prospects. Meetings follow meetings, some pretty potential investors are replaced by others, no less pretty. And only in Donetsk and Dnepropetrovsk, slowly, they continue to build stadiums.

But the counter is turned on, and every minute of delay in gold. For example, say, in prosperous Kyiv, the overall need for hotels is 22 thousand rooms today. In Donetsk, the deficit is 17 and a half thousand. For the northern neighbors, everything is also in the stage of formation, but for some reason it is believed that after 7 years the Black Sea coast will accept the Winter Olympics. And this, in all likelihood, will develop Sochi more than Euro 2012 any of the Ukrainian cities. In any case, in Guatemala, the Russians easily managed to convince the whole world that they have enough money for ten Olympiads.

Congratulating the Russians on the victory, the vice-president of the National Olympic Committee of Ukraine, the President of the Biathlon Federation Vladimir Brynzak suggested that it would be much easier to hold Russia's games than Ukraine-2012. “Still, the finances are more powerful there, and the economy is strong, and in Russia all this is more controlled by the president than ours.” Former Minister of Sports Yuri Pavlenko is more optimistic. “After the European Football Championship, Ukraine will become known throughout the world, and when the Olympics will be held in Russia in two years, our country will also be interesting to many of its guests. Predicting and economic benefits. For example, not only thousands of tourists, especially Ukrainian, will go to the Caucasus, for whom there will be no problems with visas, but also workers for the construction of the infrastructure of the Olympic town. ”

President of Ukraine Viktor Yushchenko is sure that the first final that will be held in Eastern Europe will be brilliantly prepared. According to the Ukrainian president, those pessimistic statements that sound on this subject are only a characteristic of weak people and weak politicians.

On Monday, July 9th, the president will hold a working meeting with his Polish colleague, where the issue of creating a joint coordination council for the football championship will be discussed. “I am convinced that we will do a significant part of the work even in accelerated mode, ahead of the schedule,” the President of Ukraine emphasized.

For some reason, for some reason, the issue with the “Olympic” stadium in Kyiv has not yet been resolved, at which the final match should be held in 2012. Firstly, it is not known whether it will remain on the stadium square a half-erected multi-storey office and entertainment center with an underground parking. In addition, until 2010, it is necessary to carry out a major reconstruction of the Olympic itself, since the level of its comfort no longer satisfies even Ukrainian spectators.

The issue of construction in one of the sleeping microdistricts of the capital of the new football arena is being considered. The case is small - no one is going to give the earth in vain. And already on July 18, at a meeting in UEFA, Ukraine is obliged to thoroughly report the structure of preparation for Euro 2012, dwelling at all its nuances.

Big Sports Economics: Sochi won - what now?

Dmitry Morozov: We are returning in our constant section “Big Sports Economics” to the Olympic topic what we will do over the past seven years, from time to time. Moreover, about the economic factors of the upcoming Sochi Olympiad asked us to tell students in the Saturday program “The hour of the press. Sport". Moreover, in the Pressing program, expert Robert Veskerichyan promised to return to this topic. You have a word, professor.

Robert Veskerichyan: Firstly, I think it would be appropriate to congratulate all those (and, apparently, the majority among Russians) who wanted the Olympics to go to Sochi with this event.

D Mitri Morozov: In the previous program “Pressing”, you seem to be carefully predicted to the victory of Sochi.

Robert Veskerichyan: Not just carefully, I referred to the bookmakers. But what to do if there are no other ways of measuring. We just referred to the fact that the coefficients of Sochi fell, which means that Sochi’s chances have increased very much.

Dmitry Morozov: But you talked about an information breakthrough.

Robert Veskerichyan: I then said that from the point of view of the PR support, the work was done completely brilliant. But I did not know what would happen on July 4 in Guatemala City. It was generally an enchanting show. I think, it’s enough to chew emotional things, it has already passed, Sochi - the capital of the 2014 Olympics and this, in my opinion, is very good. And there are a lot of economic issues that arise and will arise.

Dmitry Morozov: Question number one. Who will be good: Sochi, Russians, and the organizers of the games?

Robert Veskerichyan: Today we are talking only about the economic consequences for all those persons and structures that are involved in the process. Let's start with the state. The state (the federal center, Russia, the image of the state) is undoubtedly profitable, and, of course, it is good. Because holding the Olympiad or a major sports tournament of the World Cup contributes, firstly, to increase the cost of shares, capitalization of national companies, an increase in the country's capitalization as a whole, all this is resulting in raising country ratings.

We once talked about Poland and Ukraine that from the point of view of the vulgar businessman, this would never be beaten up. What five billion dollars can be repelled in 14 days when this tournament is coming in the 12th year? The same can be said about the 14th year and the Olympics. Of course not. A lot of structures will be built there, which, even if there will be a short track competition every day, will not be bought out. But we are talking about the interest of the state, and I mean the economic interest of the state. Undoubtedly, for the state this is a plus.

The second point. The business is involved. Moreover, the business is involved in the widest way, and the most large business. We are obliged to note two structures, because they were not just noted there, but are the pilots of this project, almost at the same level with the state. These are the structures of Oleg Deripaska - the holding company "Basic Element", and structures related to Vladimir Potanin. The “basic element” builds an Olympic village, and that says it all. That is, they build a huge microdistrict on the seashore, and after the Olympics is over, these apartments will be sold, Bazel is going to present from $ 1.5 to $ 2 billion due to this project related to the Olympic village.

Plus, a media center with a television center, an exhibition center will be built. And all these are payable projects. That is, it is a business. As for Potanin, he is building the Rosa Khutor ski complex, worth $ 300 million. You can treat him differently, but the fact that he is good in the sports business and, in particular, in a business related to skiing, in my opinion, no one has a doubt. As in the most skiing, as a sport. His opinion is that in 5-7 years this ski complex, subject to annual filling of at least 70 percent, which is real, will pay off.

Here are such plots. The state’s costs to infrastructure, which make up the lion's share of all costs, which are estimated at $ 12 billion, will never pay off. But the cost of infrastructure never pays off, or pay off for a very long time in all countries of the world. This is a substitution of concepts. No serious economist will argue that the construction of bypass roads or high -voltage underwater cable in order to protect Sochi from all kinds of snowy cataclysms (we remember that the city is de -energized several times in a row in winter) ... All this will not pay off, but it will pay off ...

Dmitry Morozov: In the long run.

Robert Veskerichyan: For the state and for business. As for the state, according to Gref, the state is going to receive approximately $ 10 billion in the form of taxes. Which is also quite real. As for Russians and Sochi. Of course, there are pros and cons.

The advantages are that, according to various estimates, from 50 to 150 thousand new jobs will be created. What for the depressive region, and Sochi, paradoxically sounds, seems to be the southern capital, the sea, the best resort, in an economically depressive region. They live 4-5 months a year while there is a season while tourists come. If it is a year -round resort, it will be year -round workplaces and all these conversations that what are your jobs is just a service service ...

So all over the world, the service sector, in normal, economically developed countries, gives at least 70-75 percent of GDP. What else? The cost of land and apartments rushed sharply. Already Sochi apartments are approaching the price of Moscow. And the hundreds of land near the sea are already within 200 thousand dollars. And in completely tart places and up to 700 thousand dollars reaches. And then there will be more, because hotels will be built, and so on. That is, it is all serious, and we must think a lot. Just say that everything will be fine, close your eyes, cut your eyes and everything will be fine ...

Dmitry Morozov: So there is still a problem?

Robert Veskerichyan: There is a problem, but it is solved. I call for sober economic analysis and clarification of weak and strong places in order to solve problems.

Dmitry Morozov: But are the organizers of the game concerned with these problems?

Robert Veskerichyan: must be preoccupied, because they have no other way out. There is another very serious problem, which, on the one hand, is real, and on the other hand, is too politicized, including at the expense of organizations that raised this problem to the shield already 20 years ago. I mean ecology. There were a lot of talk that the Sochi Olympics would lead to what would be destroyed ....

Yes, this is serious. For in Sochi to this day is an antediluvian sewage system - the pipe goes to sea. True, several kilometers, but there all this grace is poured. And there are a lot of other problems related to ecology. And if we talk about Krasnaya Polyana, then there are complaints of a different kind. The first and most important claim is that construction will be on the territory of the reserve and the reserve will disappear. The reserve occupies about 200 hectares of land. All sports facilities that will be built there will occupy no more than one percent of the reserve.

Я ничего не утверждаю, я просто сообщаю те факты, которые мне известны по поводу экономических и экологических последствий сочинской Олимпиады. Я надеюсь, что все обещания, которые даны и людям по поводу их экономических условий проживания, и по поводу экологии, и по поводу возрождения тех или иных популяций исчезающих животных, вместе с успешной Олимпиадой могут принести массу приятных впечатлений россиянам в 2014 году.