“If I wanted to just own this cop, I would naturally do things completely differently.” The main problem and the main scandal of the elections to the Coordinating Council of the opposition was the action of the investors of the financial pyramid MMM: first they en masse registered as candidates, then as voters who had to vote as ordered by the creator of the pyramid, Sergei Mavrodi. The Central Election Committee decided to prevent them from doing so: the result was a criminal case initiated by the Prosecutor General's Office based on complaints from participants in the pyramid scheme. What other surprises can the opposition expect from MMM - Sergey Mavrodi said in an interview with The New Times
Sergey Mavrodi's phone is a terrible secret, all communication with him is by e-mail, the address of which translates as "apocalypse now" (apocalypsenow24). Mavrodi answers in his favorite videoconference format: on the sent video file, the head of the MMM is sitting in the twilight of an empty room, lounging imposingly in front of a computer, with his hands behind his head. From below, his face is illuminated by a monitor screen. Mavrodi reads The New Times questions and answers them, now grinning, now pretending to be indignant. It can be seen that he really likes the role of an evil genius.Is it true that you blocked the personal accounts of contributors who were not ready to vote for those candidates to the Constitutional Court that you recommended? Well, what did I do? I simply recommended that people vote for their candidates. That's how everyone does it. All that was there was a question in your personal account: “Have you registered for the elections or not?” If the person answered "yes", he went to the office. If he answered “no”, he was told: “Well, register, then click “yes”. All. That is, it was not even checked in any way. He could not register and still click "yes". There was no talk of coercion to vote. I specifically wrote that I only recommend: I had no opportunity to check who voted how. In what violation and in general violation of what? They just took, cut off objectionable voters. Is this a farce or an election? If there are elections, then voters cannot be removed in principle, under any pretext, this is written in the Constitution. If the voter is capable, then break into a cake, but you can’t shoot him. Even our precious authorities have not reached this point. So far, only this CEC has reached.
What about the personal accounts of MMM members who did not vote? Have you applied any sanctions? Don't worry about them. The history of these elections is closed for investors. Everything has been unlocked for a long time. Not unlocked, but removed: all warnings, all calls. There were these same calls before the elections: vote, vote. Just calls.
Will you file a complaint against the CEC for excluding the votes of the emamers from the final results? Certainly. The show will go on for a very long time. Questions will be raised about the personal data of registered users, and financial issues. There will be many courts. We have lawyers doing it now. Mr. Volkov will now receive a second criminal case, he already has one. I don't understand his actions at all, to be honest. He thinks jokes, or what, are they joking with him? You will see everything soon.
Which of the candidates, besides the nationalist Nikolai Bondarik and the journalist Ivan Skalaukh, turned to you for help? Contacted. But since I have an extremely difficult reputation, I will not shine these people. But this Gelfand
* * Mikhail Gelfand, a biologist, professor at Moscow State University, entered the Constitutional Court on the federal list, and also ended up on the “Mavrodi list”. like its there, not addressed. He is so worried about this. If I had known that he was a friend of Navalny, nothing would have shone for him.
Why didn't you use a more cunning scheme in the elections to the Constitutional Court, which cannot be exposed? For example, would MMM representatives partly vote as they wanted, and partly for the candidates you indicated? Yes, I was not going to use any tricky schemes initially! Naturally, all this could have been done much more subtly if I had wanted to achieve different results. By participating in a cunning scheme, you admit that the enemy, in this case, is ... whatever it is ... the COP, is right, but you are wrong, which is why you resort to cunning schemes. Since I felt absolutely right, I acted quite openly.
MMM candidates not registered with the Constitutional Court appealed to the Prosecutor General's Office with a request to return the money (a case was initiated under part 1 of article 159 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation “Fraud”), which they paid for participation * * Each candidate had to transfer 10 thousand rubles . . Why did they immediately file a lawsuit, and did not try to return the money through the CEC? I asked 30 people to register and indicate in the questionnaire "ordinary person". Another 30 registered, having completely filled out all the questionnaires. Naturally, I expected the reaction of the CEC. They are like normal fish. I like to catch on spinning: I immediately rushed to the bait and rushed. They were horrified. We determined that it was MMM, and were horrified. They began to check all the lists in a row. Calculate those and these. Everyone was taken off. Each paid a registration fee - 10 thousand. Three or four times in my video speeches I turned to Mr. Volkov: return the money to people. Zero attention. Then they made such a feint. We gathered some kind of meeting and decided that we needed to fill out a bunch of papers: we need to write in general that this is an erroneous payment - I was going to send it to my mother-in-law, but sent it to Volkov by mistake. And they set a deadline that if we don’t receive a letter by the 15th, then that’s it, the train has left. I specifically, before filing a lawsuit with the prosecutor's office, asked people: did you get your money back? Everyone said no. Once again I appeal to all these zombified supporters of Navalny: I am citing the facts, you understand? You think about them with your gyrus in general, well, for a change.
How do you think MMM's votes affected the election results? There, out of these 170,000, two-thirds are at least us. There are probably 100 thousand - these are emems. Volkov posted a screenshot showing that 25% of visits to the CEC website come from the MMM website. Moreover, I urged all participants not to enter from our website. So this is just the tip of the iceberg
* The head of the Central Exhibition Commission, Leonid Volkov, claims that 17,000 ememers voted, 8879 votes were excluded from the final count. .
What is participation in the elections of the Constitutional Court for you - PR, trolling, the desire to create an MMM branch in the Constitutional Court, entertainment, the desire to show the authorities that you are useful to them? Everything in general. Get the most out of everything. Therefore, the authorities show that we are useful. I hope she sees this. Trolling? I'm not interested in trolling. Only the interests of the system (MMM) occupy me. And PR in general. This scandal is in the interests of the system, because it attracts attention. Free advertising. Well, apart from everything else, I really don’t like these gentlemen from the COP, to be honest.
In what relationship with the authorities is the MMM? Is it true that you are supervised by the FSB? Of course it's true. FSB, Ministry of Internal Affairs, Prosecutor General's Office, Kremlin. This is me to the participants (addressing. - The New Times): listen, shake your head, that is, participate boldly, we are completely undercover. Everything is fine. And always supervised. I always tell you this. No? Well, now I'm talking.
Do you consider MMM a real political force? Naturally. It's amazing that they don't understand this. It is a completely new situation in the political arena that the MMM acts as one voter with a million votes. With millions! The elections to the Constitutional Court demonstrated this. I have already suggested: we will hold elections... well, at least not elections, but some kind of poll on some neutral platform. Well, I'll put Kim
* Andrei Kim, MMM candidate for the Opposition Coordinating Council, was removed before voting began. against the same Navalny, and let's look at the results. And you will all see if the MMM is a real political force. I believe that the evolutionary path must be followed, that the MMM will gradually absorb both the government and the opposition, everything in general. Like radiation we are. Everything that comes into contact with us becomes radioactive by itself. I also believe that the financial apocalypse is inevitable. We can do a lot, we are changing the world. OK. There will be questions - contact.