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The Orthodox priest was arrested in absentia for pedophilia. Libelaw, political order, or true? The thoughts of Alexander Nevzorov and Yakov Krotov Gleb Grozovsky was an unusual priest. A professional football player, he became an adviser to the general director of the Zenit club on spiritual and moral issues. He was engaged in support for AIDS prevention organizations among children, led youth radio broadcasts, performed on television, wrote poetry.
Despite the atypical career, the ideologically Grozovsky was faithful to the General Line of the Russian Orthodox Church. Here is his response to the Pussy Riot case : “The anti -church, anti -Orthodox, anti -Russian campaign has a purely custom character. The church in the person of the Holy Patriarch interferes with the decomposition of society and the riot of immorality. Statesmen who are not alien to the faith of their fathers are trying to limit this bacchanalia - including laws. The gay community is set-if not to kill, then to denigrate the leader of the church, among us, priests and laity, Patriarch Kirill is very fond of, respected, appreciated and listened to each of his words, minted as a coin. "
The beloved occupation of a football player was working with minors, he constantly went to children's Orthodox camps, and the children adored him. Grozovsky adopted two girls.
Law enforcement agencies are convinced that love for children was reprehensible. The episode recorded in the criminal case applies to schoolgirls 9 and 12 years old, resting last summer in the Orthodox camp on the Greek island of Kos. In total, according to investigators, the priest corrupted five schoolgirls.
On November 1, Gleb Grozovsky was arrested in absentia. He is in Israel and, although he categorically denies his guilt, is in no hurry to return. On November 8, the priest published an appeal to his supporters : “I don’t understand how such a monstrous lie could arise as it could happen that they accused me of violence against 9-year-old and 12-year-old girls. It doesn’t fit in my head. I could never even think such a crime!”
Pedophile priests have repeatedly exposed in Catholic countries, for the Russian Orthodox Church-this is the first scandal in which such a famous person is involved. As usual, several conspiracy versions appeared. Someone thinks that the absentee arrest of Grozovsky is Putin’s hint of Patriarch, Orthodox activists claim that the “anti-Russian, anti-church“ elites ”and the media belonging to them” use Grozovsky’s case to “disrupt the“ Orthodox-Solder Turn of Russia ”carried out by Patriarch Kirill. He writes that he does not believe in the guilt of Grozovsky: "It seems, someone imperious was needed by the land of his parish."
Be that as it may, until Gleb Grozovsky returned from Israel to answer the questions of investigators, his position looks like a shaky.
Pedophilia among the Orthodox clergy is not often said. One of those who violate the taboo is the St. Petersburg journalist, former State Duma deputy Alexander Nevzorov . He even promised to publish the book "Pedophilia in the Russian Orthodox Church." Here are his thoughts about the work of Grozovsky.
- It's not about Grozovsky itself. And the fact that the peals that shook Catholicism suddenly broke out on the reserved ground of the Russian Orthodox Church, which seems to be insured by all scandals with the help of censorship, obedient law enforcement agencies, state -owners, articles and everything else. But here it would be quite strange to be surprised at all this, because pedophilia is not condemned by Christianity at all. If we talk about the fact of pedophilia and the attitude of canonical Christianity to this, we will not be able to find condemnation anywhere. We will not be able to find it in the commandments that pay attention to much smaller crimes. Moreover, in the number of numbers, we can easily find the direct order of Moses: to kill everyone except children who have not yet known the married bed, and take them in comfort. Let's remember the marriage age of girls in ancient Judea. This is 10-12 years. It was at this age that the believers are convinced by the Parthenogenesis with Virgin Mary. Therefore, the relationship "sex and children" in Christianity is not considered criminal or vicious. The rejection of pedophilia is not part of Christian values.
- Still, the modern Christian church condemns pedophilia.
- The Christian church lives on those books that they were awarded by the tribes of the cattle breeders of the Sinai Peninsula, who lived 2.5 thousand years ago, and, as far as I know, did not edit these books in any way. It would be quite strange to condemn the Christian church, for example, the same Moses, I am not talking about his boss.
- Numerous scandals in the Catholic Church are known. And pedophilia among the Orthodox clergy, as you said, remains a secret behind seven seals. But you have long been interested in this topic and even said that you want to publish the book "Pedophilia in the Russian Orthodox Church" ...
- Are there any plots where all the commas have already been verified?
- There are a lot of such plots. Of course, less detected than that of Catholics. Because Catholics have journalists' battalions on this topic, and we have a much smaller composition. Nevertheless, this is no less picturesque than the Catholics. And again, I want to draw your attention to the fact that in Christianity there is no motive for condemning pedophilia. Maria 12 years old. And from this fact you can’t get anywhere.
- The reaction to Grozovsky’s business confirms your words. After all, the church, instead of condemning him or engaged in investigation, sends him to Israel ...
- Yes. It is clear that the system person, which is the minister of the cult, immediately responds from a business trip. Immediately! And then it is proposed under the bright eyes of the organs so that he either refutes or does not refute the charges. Instead, he is hidden vulgarly. And, as you can see, the almighty police officers do not have enough strength to overcome church-state-state guarantees in order to receive at least an elementary interrogation.
-To initiate a case against the priest and such publicity is needed some kind of sanction. Many people think that there is some kind of catch. There is even a version that this is the presidential administration specially through Grozovsky’s case is suffering from the Patriarchate. Maybe this?
- Cases in your dossier for the future book "Pedophilia in the Russian Orthodox Church" have been noted, when the rapists received merit? Or always all these things are swept under the carpet and end in nothing?
- It all depends on the rank, of course. Some leaders of the Orthodox scout camps, as it was recently in St. Petersburg, received a deadline, and deservedly, for the same pedophilia. In some cases, they received, but, of course, not so significant figures. Here, the Orthodox immediately closed the bayonets, understanding what a nightmare this scandal would turn out for them precisely due to the fact that the figure of this pop, of course, is not bright, but noticeable.
The presenter of the RS program “From a Christian point of view”, Priest Jacob Krotov, says about what is curious of Gleb Grozovsky.
"Quite accidentally, a curtain over the clan character of modern Russian Orthodoxy (not to be confused with the Russians) is revealed. Again, as before the revolution, the priests" extraterritorial ", departmental ones appeared. It is such priests, ordained from the Chekists, serve in temples at the check, and they openly report that they retain their posts and titles (it seems not lower than Colonels), the former Minister of Health, who was falling on-literally, acquiring an apartment at his head, Patriarch Kirill formally, apparently, is no longer listed as Zenit’s confessor, as he was at first, but it was undoubtedly that he was really a team priest. Zenit players also threw themselves to the construction of the temple, where the last two years was the rector of Grozovsky, and gave him a "good jeep".
Our weaknesses are the continuation of strong places. The clan is good in ordinary circumstances, but bad in a collision with another clan. The accusation is fair or not, but it was clearly supported by some clan, powerful enough so that Zenit could not extinguish the scandal in the bud. If Grozovsky entered the clan of Patriarch Cyril or Metropolitan Juvenal, then the case would hardly be initiated. To be a little autonomous from his superiors is not bad, but there is a risk - and Grozovsky ran into. Undoubtedly, however, that 95% of sexual violence against children and their molestations remain unpunished because they are committed under the strictly clogged conditions of "Orthodox" (and not only) cadet schools, children's circles, orphanages and shelters. This is only in the inflamed imagination of the author of the film "Baby" by orphanages - fit dexterous devils, but in reality these are mutilated, if not physically, then psychologically people.
Regardless of the degree of guilt of Grozovsky, the incident recalls that the hysteria that pedophilia is a monopoly of homosexuals is pure nonsense (more precisely, dirty). Grozovsky is the father of four children (two adoptive), but this does not mean that he cannot be a pedophile. Leaving the teacher without control (and the priest in this case is a teacher) in the hope that he is a large heterosexual is unacceptable.
One could say that the incident reminds of the presumption of innocence, but in fact it recalls that the presumption of innocence in Russia is purely selective. At the same time, voters are leaders of different clans. They will decide the fate of Grozovsky, and there is not the slightest guarantee that the verdict can be trusted.
A completely comic, Rabelazian appendage to the plot is a non -trivial refuge that the suspect was found. The Russian Orthodox, a football priest, who is re-educating Israeli-Alcoholikov, is the worse than the Gubermanovsky "Chinese for a Negro in Tula builds a synagogue." I would really like to get acquainted with the full list of such foreign institutions contained with the money of Russian oil.
Seeing Grozovsky in the case is that the priest was put on trial - the manifestation of a certain anticlericalism, signs of a quarrel between the president and the patriarch is not worth it. But what they see shows to what extent in Russia everything is tied to a single person. Without it, things will not be aroused, and they will not kiss the child in the navel. And this is perhaps the worst thing - because such monomania is for any sin, from pedophilia to sector fiber, like gasoline for fire. "
Despite the atypical career, the ideologically Grozovsky was faithful to the General Line of the Russian Orthodox Church. Here is his response to the Pussy Riot case : “The anti -church, anti -Orthodox, anti -Russian campaign has a purely custom character. The church in the person of the Holy Patriarch interferes with the decomposition of society and the riot of immorality. Statesmen who are not alien to the faith of their fathers are trying to limit this bacchanalia - including laws. The gay community is set-if not to kill, then to denigrate the leader of the church, among us, priests and laity, Patriarch Kirill is very fond of, respected, appreciated and listened to each of his words, minted as a coin. "
The beloved occupation of a football player was working with minors, he constantly went to children's Orthodox camps, and the children adored him. Grozovsky adopted two girls.
Law enforcement agencies are convinced that love for children was reprehensible. The episode recorded in the criminal case applies to schoolgirls 9 and 12 years old, resting last summer in the Orthodox camp on the Greek island of Kos. In total, according to investigators, the priest corrupted five schoolgirls.
On November 1, Gleb Grozovsky was arrested in absentia. He is in Israel and, although he categorically denies his guilt, is in no hurry to return. On November 8, the priest published an appeal to his supporters : “I don’t understand how such a monstrous lie could arise as it could happen that they accused me of violence against 9-year-old and 12-year-old girls. It doesn’t fit in my head. I could never even think such a crime!”
Pedophile priests have repeatedly exposed in Catholic countries, for the Russian Orthodox Church-this is the first scandal in which such a famous person is involved. As usual, several conspiracy versions appeared. Someone thinks that the absentee arrest of Grozovsky is Putin’s hint of Patriarch, Orthodox activists claim that the “anti-Russian, anti-church“ elites ”and the media belonging to them” use Grozovsky’s case to “disrupt the“ Orthodox-Solder Turn of Russia ”carried out by Patriarch Kirill. He writes that he does not believe in the guilt of Grozovsky: "It seems, someone imperious was needed by the land of his parish."
Be that as it may, until Gleb Grozovsky returned from Israel to answer the questions of investigators, his position looks like a shaky.
Pedophilia among the Orthodox clergy is not often said. One of those who violate the taboo is the St. Petersburg journalist, former State Duma deputy Alexander Nevzorov . He even promised to publish the book "Pedophilia in the Russian Orthodox Church." Here are his thoughts about the work of Grozovsky.
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Alexander Nevzorov about pedophilia and Christianity
- It's not about Grozovsky itself. And the fact that the peals that shook Catholicism suddenly broke out on the reserved ground of the Russian Orthodox Church, which seems to be insured by all scandals with the help of censorship, obedient law enforcement agencies, state -owners, articles and everything else. But here it would be quite strange to be surprised at all this, because pedophilia is not condemned by Christianity at all. If we talk about the fact of pedophilia and the attitude of canonical Christianity to this, we will not be able to find condemnation anywhere. We will not be able to find it in the commandments that pay attention to much smaller crimes. Moreover, in the number of numbers, we can easily find the direct order of Moses: to kill everyone except children who have not yet known the married bed, and take them in comfort. Let's remember the marriage age of girls in ancient Judea. This is 10-12 years. It was at this age that the believers are convinced by the Parthenogenesis with Virgin Mary. Therefore, the relationship "sex and children" in Christianity is not considered criminal or vicious. The rejection of pedophilia is not part of Christian values.
- Still, the modern Christian church condemns pedophilia.
- The Christian church lives on those books that they were awarded by the tribes of the cattle breeders of the Sinai Peninsula, who lived 2.5 thousand years ago, and, as far as I know, did not edit these books in any way. It would be quite strange to condemn the Christian church, for example, the same Moses, I am not talking about his boss.
- Numerous scandals in the Catholic Church are known. And pedophilia among the Orthodox clergy, as you said, remains a secret behind seven seals. But you have long been interested in this topic and even said that you want to publish the book "Pedophilia in the Russian Orthodox Church" ...
Alexander Nevzorov
“We would have released it for a long time, but they, bastards, throw the material all the time.” And every time we get another tidbit, another dose of nightmare information, it becomes clear that without it the book cannot be, it must be inserted. And since I understand what razor blade I go with a pedophilian history in the Russian Orthodox Church, everything has to be checked to the last comma of the court decisions of criminal cases.- Are there any plots where all the commas have already been verified?
- There are a lot of such plots. Of course, less detected than that of Catholics. Because Catholics have journalists' battalions on this topic, and we have a much smaller composition. Nevertheless, this is no less picturesque than the Catholics. And again, I want to draw your attention to the fact that in Christianity there is no motive for condemning pedophilia. Maria 12 years old. And from this fact you can’t get anywhere.
- The reaction to Grozovsky’s business confirms your words. After all, the church, instead of condemning him or engaged in investigation, sends him to Israel ...
- Yes. It is clear that the system person, which is the minister of the cult, immediately responds from a business trip. Immediately! And then it is proposed under the bright eyes of the organs so that he either refutes or does not refute the charges. Instead, he is hidden vulgarly. And, as you can see, the almighty police officers do not have enough strength to overcome church-state-state guarantees in order to receive at least an elementary interrogation.
-To initiate a case against the priest and such publicity is needed some kind of sanction. Many people think that there is some kind of catch. There is even a version that this is the presidential administration specially through Grozovsky’s case is suffering from the Patriarchate. Maybe this?
- I think you are flattering the presidential administration. I think that they are not capable of such complex ventures and multi -income. This is absolutely not necessary. The uncle is simply called, he is taken by the beard and explained to the uncle. But such complex beautiful visits through the press, believe me, are not very in the Kremlin style. No, here the story is more dramatic. The guys from the organs suffered for a very long time in an attempt to legalize this criminal case, quite disgusting. I do not really believe in any sacred fire in the hearts, especially in the sacred fire in the hearts of the police, but, in my opinion, this is the case when we are dealing with this sacred fire.Almighty police officers do not have enough strength to receive at least an elementary interrogation of the accused
- Cases in your dossier for the future book "Pedophilia in the Russian Orthodox Church" have been noted, when the rapists received merit? Or always all these things are swept under the carpet and end in nothing?
- It all depends on the rank, of course. Some leaders of the Orthodox scout camps, as it was recently in St. Petersburg, received a deadline, and deservedly, for the same pedophilia. In some cases, they received, but, of course, not so significant figures. Here, the Orthodox immediately closed the bayonets, understanding what a nightmare this scandal would turn out for them precisely due to the fact that the figure of this pop, of course, is not bright, but noticeable.
The presenter of the RS program “From a Christian point of view”, Priest Jacob Krotov, says about what is curious of Gleb Grozovsky.
"Quite accidentally, a curtain over the clan character of modern Russian Orthodoxy (not to be confused with the Russians) is revealed. Again, as before the revolution, the priests" extraterritorial ", departmental ones appeared. It is such priests, ordained from the Chekists, serve in temples at the check, and they openly report that they retain their posts and titles (it seems not lower than Colonels), the former Minister of Health, who was falling on-literally, acquiring an apartment at his head, Patriarch Kirill formally, apparently, is no longer listed as Zenit’s confessor, as he was at first, but it was undoubtedly that he was really a team priest. Zenit players also threw themselves to the construction of the temple, where the last two years was the rector of Grozovsky, and gave him a "good jeep".
Relations within the clan are perceived as the main resource of a person in Russia. The inhabitants of the village, where the Grozovsky church built, remembered his two good deeds: he sanctified the road so that the cars would not beat in the snow (ties with heaven) and ensured that the security guard who received heavy burns would be sent for treatment (communications in medicine). In both cases, the priest replenishes the idleness of those who, according to the law, should contain the road in the right condition, and provide the necessary treatment. A law without a clan - like beer without vodka. Moreover, Russian beer, the day before yesterday.If Grozovsky entered the clan of Patriarch Kirill or Metropolitan Juvenal, then the case would hardly have been aroused
Our weaknesses are the continuation of strong places. The clan is good in ordinary circumstances, but bad in a collision with another clan. The accusation is fair or not, but it was clearly supported by some clan, powerful enough so that Zenit could not extinguish the scandal in the bud. If Grozovsky entered the clan of Patriarch Cyril or Metropolitan Juvenal, then the case would hardly be initiated. To be a little autonomous from his superiors is not bad, but there is a risk - and Grozovsky ran into. Undoubtedly, however, that 95% of sexual violence against children and their molestations remain unpunished because they are committed under the strictly clogged conditions of "Orthodox" (and not only) cadet schools, children's circles, orphanages and shelters. This is only in the inflamed imagination of the author of the film "Baby" by orphanages - fit dexterous devils, but in reality these are mutilated, if not physically, then psychologically people.
Regardless of the degree of guilt of Grozovsky, the incident recalls that the hysteria that pedophilia is a monopoly of homosexuals is pure nonsense (more precisely, dirty). Grozovsky is the father of four children (two adoptive), but this does not mean that he cannot be a pedophile. Leaving the teacher without control (and the priest in this case is a teacher) in the hope that he is a large heterosexual is unacceptable.
One could say that the incident reminds of the presumption of innocence, but in fact it recalls that the presumption of innocence in Russia is purely selective. At the same time, voters are leaders of different clans. They will decide the fate of Grozovsky, and there is not the slightest guarantee that the verdict can be trusted.
A completely comic, Rabelazian appendage to the plot is a non -trivial refuge that the suspect was found. The Russian Orthodox, a football priest, who is re-educating Israeli-Alcoholikov, is the worse than the Gubermanovsky "Chinese for a Negro in Tula builds a synagogue." I would really like to get acquainted with the full list of such foreign institutions contained with the money of Russian oil.
Seeing Grozovsky in the case is that the priest was put on trial - the manifestation of a certain anticlericalism, signs of a quarrel between the president and the patriarch is not worth it. But what they see shows to what extent in Russia everything is tied to a single person. Without it, things will not be aroused, and they will not kiss the child in the navel. And this is perhaps the worst thing - because such monomania is for any sin, from pedophilia to sector fiber, like gasoline for fire. "