Memories of the first Chechen

Ruslan: “1994 -1995, Grozny. The light went out, the gas is disconnected. I began to stock up on, found kerosene, found several paraffin plates: then I did the candles. Found kerosene lamps. He made wooden bunks in the basement, hung the lamps. The most comfortable shelter in the city was heavily. I am lying, reading. Bombing. Knocking. "What is needed?" "Open the door." She is on the bolt, metal. When they told me “open the door”, I asked: “Why?” "We will shoot." Well shoot. I leave the door, stand on the side. They shoot above their heads. I shoot back at my feet. That is, we do not want to kill each other. They shoot so that I am scared. And I shoot to make it clear that I was not afraid. And all, they, having received a rebuff, leave. These are militants, looters. The feds are in the same way. Officers "Urals" took up upholstered furniture. Soldier, he is simpler, the tape recorder can grab. Golden, rings, earrings. He was cold in Bather, he took the carpet, he covered himself with pillows. Try to open the door to the officer. By the arrival of the federals, everyone had an open -up door. ”

"Documentary cinema"

London television journalist, director and producer Teresa Cherfas and the heroes of her British films

Teresa Cherfas: “I began to study Russian in school. After I wanted to enter the University of Cambridge. And they told me that the Russian language is taught in Cambridge as Latin, as a dead language, because it was believed that there were no possibilities to practice or use this language in life. ”

Memory of the Kyiv doctor Susanna Alekseevna Kolomiychenko (Kyiv)

A fragment from the program with the participation of S.A. Kolomiychenko:

“Ideology to some extent influenced science. You know that any textbook that we discovered both according to pathos and in other disciplines began with the teachings of Marx, Lenin - this is one aspect. And the second is that in the Union there were special clinics, special hospitals, into which only special people could get. Pathanatomy this also concerned. For example, when a high -ranking rank died, the autopsy was usually made during closed doors and not everyone could be present at this autopsy: the authorities were invited, the diagnoses that were made were not disclosed. So, it influenced.

Was your work of the pathologist fraught with some troubles?

Well, I had unpleasant moments, when, completely unexpectedly, I had to open my acquaintances and close enough familiar people. So there were circumstances that there was no one else to do this, and after that for a long time I could not enter the sectional hall.

Your work, the work of a pathologist, is it fraught with health?

Certainly. But for this there are all sorts of precautions. With some infectious, serious infectious diseases, especially dangerous infections, special costumes are used that wearing a pathologist and only performs an autopsy in them.

And what is the most dangerous infection for a pathologist?

It's hard to say. Any infection, if there is some kind of skin damage in a pathologist, can penetrate and cause the same disease in the opening. Or some infectious diseases, in particular, plague.

The gross work, so to speak, is done by a gross work by a pinkator. Among them are there, were there masters of their craft?

Yes, there were masters of their craft and not only in terms of the implementation of pestial work, but also in terms of scientific, in terms of lecture. We had such a well -known (well, this is the sister of the patanatomy in fact - a forensic examination), was a famous professor Sapozhnikov, who gave lectures as an actor, and students always listened with great pleasure his lectures.

Your work or, even one might say, does your vocation do not contradict your religious beliefs?

No, it does not contradict. I am a believer by my beliefs, but to what extent? I try to observe biblical commandments. In early childhood, I was baptized by a cousin. In our house, religion was always respected, although the church was visited quite rarely. Eggs were painted on Easter, Kutya was preparing for Christmas, and close people gathered, although in those days it was persecuted. We had at the Kiev Medical Institute - this is a well -known professor of Pirov - he was a very religious person and nevertheless he was an anatomist, not a pathologist, but an anatomist, and always worked with corpses and said that we should treat and talk with him on "you".

Does the work of a pathologist in the west differ from your work in Kyiv?

Differs. It differs in that in the West they somehow deal with the issues of general pathology. In our Soviet Union, at one time, there was also such a general discipline, a general pathology. But then it was divided into pathological anatomy and pathological physiology. In the West, the issues of general pathology are taught more, and in terms of practical work, then there are completely different conditions, completely different equipment, for example, autopsy are made in completely terrible conditions, in the sectional hall there is always a terrible smell, the uniforms of the pathologist are also not corresponding, and special costumes are used in the West, disposable. Well, the toolkit is processed accordingly. And we have all this in very difficult conditions. It used to be required to open any deceased, and according to the law it was impossible not to make autopsy, especially people who died in the hospital. Recently, it has somewhat weakened, and at the request of relatives, it is now allowed to get the body of the deceased without opening.

At home, returning from work, did you talk about your work in the family circle?

No, you know, about your work in the study, for example, intravital tissues, biopsy, I talked, and about autopsy ... Maybe at first when I was passionate about all this, I told some interesting cases, but still more about the lifetime study of tissues.

Your father was a doctor, professor, and you continued the family tradition. Well, are your children, grandchildren?

To some extent, the daughter began, although I discouraged her from this. I did not want them to be pathologists - this is a difficult profession. Especially, at least, the moment of autopsy was complicated and difficult for me, although I tried to somehow fence off from everything and assume that it was only the material, the organs that need to look and determine what changes occurred in them. I discouraged my children, in particular, a daughter, but nevertheless she did not listen, she is a rather stubborn person and chose this profession for herself.

What is the story of your pathological life remembered for you the most?

Well, at first, when I just started working, everything was shocked. Because I did not know anything yet. And then there were no such shocks.

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