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How Leo Tolstoy defeated the Kremlin meaning

“Napoleon’s historians say that he also wanted to stop from Smolensk, he knew the danger of his stretched position, he knew that the occupation of Moscow would not be the end of the campaign, because he saw from Smolensk the position in what position the Russian cities were left and did not receive a single answer to his repeated statements about the desire to negotiate,” the VGTRK correspondent reads this fragment from the third volume of the “war”, standing on the world. The concrete strip of the Russian air base in Latakia, in Syria - against the backdrop of aircraft with red stars and under the whistle of their engines.

Another correspondent adopts the baton on Saur-Mogil. “Donetsk region. Ukraine,” says in the credits: “Giving and accepting the Borodino battle, Kutuzov and Napoleon acted involuntarily and pointless. And historians under the completed facts then brought the cunning evidence of the foresight and genius of the commanders, who, of all the involuntary tools of world events, were the most slave and involuntary figures,” reads - reads. The correspondent, and the pages of the book are tearing the wind walking at a height, where fierce battles were going on a little more than a year ago.

“Each in its own way interprets this combination of the Tolstoy text and the place where the VGTRK correspondents are broadcast. The combination is emotionally strong,” adds the host of the Culture channel, where the huge multimedia project of Voinir.rf , dedicated to the 150th anniversary of the novel by Leo Tolstoy. Over a thousand people of "various ages and professions," and professions not only of creative ones took part in the readings of the novel. One of the readers was Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev.

What did the authors of an expensive project supported by the state wanted to say, trying on the Tolstoy text to modern Russia? We talked about this with a culturalist and sociologist, editor -in -chief of the magazine "Art of Cinema" Daniil Dondurey . He liked the project:

-Firstly, we have not had a purely cultural project for a long time: a large, national, costly, with hundreds of elements and ideas showing a diverse people, from some high school students to vice-mayors, people of various professions of a giant country in different places, in their working contexts, reading, which are in a state of special rise. It seemed to me that it was great and noble, expensive and powerful. Second: I am as a spectator and they, as co -authors of Tolstoy, understand the meaning of this text for the whole world. They should not be convinced that this is one of the highest manifestations of the Russian language, culture, and spirit. This should not be proved, supplied with words, rockets, aircraft, statements to the UN - this is a real absolute.

They have a pistol on the side, the creators of this project

- The most different people were, and the way they read, and what they read created a certain context that it is not clear how much it corresponds to the novel. When I see two VGTRK correspondents, who, one from the Latakia air base, from where the blows are now being struck by different Syrian objects, the other from the Donetsk region, read the War and Peace, I even find it difficult to decipher this message. And there is some message, because the presenter emphasizes that the place from where it is read. Can you decipher it all?

-This is not accidentally “passing” the work (I don’t like this word) at school for more than a hundred years, not because it is a hymn to the war, but because it has so many depths and capabilities that everyone, from monstrous regimes in Central Africa or North Korea to super-democratic Norway or Canada, finds something very important for itself. This romance is great. Second: of course, everyone wants to use the reputation of the great writer in their interests. The Channel "Culture" (do not tell anyone about this) is included in the giant production complex of VGTRK. I begin from the idea that the main production of the modern world is an interpretation of reality. Understanding reality is more important than oil, gas, metal, anything. And this understanding of reality - the official production of VGTRK manufactures. They are simply obliged to put everything in an official political context, otherwise these people will be deprived of work, they will not give money, and so on. That is, the military should walk with epaulets and hold a gun on his side. He can save people, but he is a military man. They are military. I do not care about how they will report to the employers about the inscription of the great artist into the aircraft shot down by the Turks, to the military base in Syria, to the destroyed Donetsk airport ... Of course, they will do it, they have a pistol, the creators of this project. But I feel, I was worried when I watched: Tolstoy is “cooler” (I use this word of adolescents) than the leadership of VGTRK and all those to whom this leadership reports. It is more powerful, wider, it will be alive for descendants, for those who forget, what Donetsk is in the events of 2014 and 2015. No matter how much they want to poison this bottomless well of meanings with some details, they will still not bend Tolstoy. Thank God that Russia has such a genius, absolute, timeless, fill it with any poison, it will still withstand it.

Tolstoy is the sea

-An interesting statement that the North Korean leader will find something in the novel for himself, and the democratic leader will find his own. Tolstoy is impassive? Isn't it your send? And when people interpret it, they pervert this message.

- He is not impassive, he is colossal in depth. When you approach the sea, you can pour a bottle, a cup, even a poison tank there - for the sea it is nothing. Tolstoy is the sea, it is a bottomless and timeless sea. Therefore, art remains, despite all technologies, economics and all political types of system. It has a completely different consistency of meanings. Yes, Kim Jong-un will be able to use some phrases, pages, that people are happy, seeing their sovereign, there is it there. So what? Anyway, this great romance is not about it. This great romance is still about so many volumes of meaning that you cannot even shake it.

What could have happened if Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin wrote books

- All schoolchildren "passed" the novel. What do you think, in fact, how much people know and understand it? Formally, the whole people read it.

- When we talk about the peoples, in some cases we talk about tens of thousands of people, sometimes a couple of millions, and nations, for example, Russian are 146 million. In the Soviet Union, of course, not 280 million people did the August 1991 revolution, it was made by the most active, advanced, trying to figure it out in the principles of life and the future of the country of the elite. In Moscow and throughout the country, all the events that led to the destruction of Soviet power are a couple of millions of people out of 280. These are always elites, only elites. And here, too, those who understand the meaning of Tolstoy who read it once every ten years or at least twice in their lives - these are also elites, people are indifferent, active. The Channel "Culture", I pay attention as a sociologist - this is only an elite. Channel "Culture" never look more than 2%. It is also unknown who watched this program can be 1%, but this is an important percentage. This was watched by the breadwinners of the country, not those who are responsible for state -owned companies, sits in the ministries and sits in the administration, but real breadwinners, those who make science, open their companies, risks, confronts the isolation of Russia, reads books, shooting good copyright films. They looked, I am convinced of this, there are a lot of them. As Andrei Platonov said a very important thought: "Without me, people are not complete." And this is so, without one Shukshin, the Russian people are not complete. And Tolstoy is not the "small land" of Brezhnev, Brezhnev, as you know, is the most beloved leader of the country of the twentieth century in Russian citizens. What could have happened today if Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin wrote books.

Tolstoy carries life. He brings a victory over the war

- Can the project be perceived as a demonstration of the greatness of the country? Recently, on television, we are increasingly hearing how different people, up to the highest leaders of the country, turn their attention to the nuclear bomb - clearly in order to recall the greatness of the country. Is it possible to say that the “war and the world” of Tolstoy and Tolstoy himself are such a different nuclear bomb, in another area, but also a nuclear bomb that they got to recall how great the inhabitants of Russia are?

- At nine tenths, I do not agree with what you are talking about, but I agree in one. What does not agree: the atomic bomb brings death to humanity and Russia, first of all. This, of course, is a total project - an atomic bomb. She carries death. And Tolstoy carries life. He brings a victory over the war - this is very important. It is no coincidence that "and the world", it carries the world. This is the most important thing. The second, and this even understands all the tyrants who pronounce the words "human capital", the economists force to pronounce, explain what human capital is, that this is the value of the future. According to this dimension, the bomb is the ending of human capital, and Tolstoy is the flight of human capital, that is, a complex developed personality. As for what I agree with, I agree only with the fact that Tolstoy is a evidence of the giant potential power of Russia, it is a really competitive product, maybe the only one. The only competitive product is the creativity and complexity of Russian culture. In two hypostases, in my opinion, it is its incredible complexity and unnowanment, it is not studied at all. I do not mean artistic culture, but the culture itself, immensely complex, incomprehensible, tabulating the knowledge of myself, working in hundreds of contexts, unknown, unexplored. And in a narrow sense of the word "culture" as an artistic culture, here we really represent a very competitive product. We cannot show it either in biology, nor in IT technologies, or in labor productivity, especially since we have it 3-3.5 times lower than in Norway, for example, or in Singapore. And in culture we show. The second half of the XIX century, the first decades of the twentieth century - we are competitive. The very fact of demonstrating the product where we are competitive is an incredibly inspiring circumstance for the Kremlin's meaning. They subconsciously understand that our missiles will soon lag behind, and the planes will be lost, and Tolstoy will never let us down. Tolstoy will be in intellectuals, elites of the whole world always arouse respect.

They are 125 million people, 85% of the population, it seems to them, successfully grazed

- I want to get distracted for a second and ask what the Kremlin’s meaning is?

- Slimblings are the main professionals of modern Russian life. By last names we do not know them all-this is a network consciousness, some small number of people in the administration, on television channels, software directors, producers, authors, directors, and the main editors of newspapers. These are those that make a massive idea of the life of a hundred extra millions of people. They make, on the one hand, it is very effective, and on the other hand, monstrous, because, in my opinion, they launched the country into the opposite of progress, in this sense they are not patriotic, they make Russia weaker than it could be. Of course, they are 125 million people, these 85% of the population, as it seems to them, successfully grazed, but in fact they lead to some faults, future dramas. Of course, this is due to my main conviction that everything in people's lives depends on culture. Politics, economics, a picture of the world, a program of behavior and various kinds of moral prohibitions and permits. You can a woman a day after she was taken away from her and killed, send it from Russia and forget, and in St. Petersburg no one will go outside to be affected by this immoral effect. This is a huge work of many thousands of people, it seems to me the most influential, I will not say effective, because in the word "effective" there is positive, and this is negative activity today.

- I want to adhere to a conversation about the “war and the world”, but I have some doubts that society has zombie, imposed his ideas. It seems to me that people who produce meanings, meanings that you are talking about, are still a derivative of society.

- We must immediately conduct a huge discussion what society is. Let's get back to Tolstoy.

They thought that Tolstoy Lev Nikolaevich would be on ideological dancing

- Let's get back to Tolstoy. Tolstoy has a completely clear message: he is against the war. At the same time, in the country, which is now very immersed in the war, in fact, the dissonance between the atomic bomb and Tolstoy is obtained. Why, in general, the meanings risk starting to this swimming, given that, in fact, a project with Tolstoy contradicts the project with an atomic bomb?

- This is the case when I absolutely agree with you. They did it, as it seemed to them, in their interests. You know that in the Russian picture of the world the problem of war is more important than the problem of the world. Therefore, the Minister of Culture heads the military-historical society, and not a peaceful historical society. The Russian language is incredibly sensitive, it is unlimited clearly shows the main value orientations. War, readiness for sacrifice, but the main thing is readiness for victory. War as the eve of a potential victory, including all opposing Russia. They wanted to use it today, when there are our military bases, and Syria, and Turkey, and Ukraine, and the border with Georgia, and the Baltic states, anything is a very important preservation of the militaristic spirit, incredibly important. And they thought that Tolstoy Lev Nikolaevich would be on such ideological dancing as night programs on television channels. When they say one thing, then there are some kinds of transfers, after which the very American films that they smashed so much. In Russia, one of the testimonies of its incredible complexity is double, incredibly subtle, powerful, and so on. They wanted to use Tolstoy in a sense as Vladimir Solovyov. But Tolstoy is not Solovyov, Tolstoy is a world genius, he does not give in, he is too tough for them, he is not cooperative, he will overcome all the framework into which they drove him. And thank God that they used these millions of dollars on it. If there were no Syrian and Turkish tasks, they might not have spent. But they spent so that a certain number of people, important people, elites, saw that Tolstoy was for peace. Oh horror, we’ll just now introduce the S-400, and he is for peace. And this is very important, it is unprecedented. Here, Tolstoy, of course, once again beat these meanings too.

Here a person is always a serf state-civilization

- One of Tolstoy’s most important concepts in the novel is the role of man in history. He invariably says that in fact a person is not so important here. In a country where one person is important, where there is a person who decides a lot, is this also meaning that is not captured by meaning?

- Agree. They wanted to use it, they wanted to insert it. This is the most important task of modern ideological production, cultural, worldview production - to say: and you do not think, there is such a person, he is one, he is a sovereign, he will do everything. After all, Tolstoy has a lot about the sovereign. It is shown there as alive, thinking, complex, unique - this is all very important. They all sought to do this, they have such a task. This is the first. Second: in Russia, really not lived, not very developed, not mastered by the nation, an understanding of a private person. I’m just a citizen, not even with a political connotation-I’m not going to Bolotnaya Square, I don’t speak, but I’m just a citizen, a private private person who has his own vision of life, his goals, for example, purely family, or material, or some other. And here, I will say sharply, a person is always a serf state-civilization. Vladimir Vladimirovich said incredibly important a year ago, which will now be the main one-the Civilization State. And people, and citizens, and civil society, and business, and national moral, all that you want, children of the state, wards, they are clients of the state-owned state. This has Tolstoy, of course, he is experiencing, as a wisest person, this is an attitude with the war, the world, the sovereign, history. He is a researcher, he is worried. It seems to me that here he is interesting rather as a director of experiences and questions, and not just the author of the answers.

They wanted to use the concept of "world" and the concept of ". RF", and "Russian world"

- As you know, “war and peace” are “peace” in the sense of “not war”, although in the Russian language you can perceive the “world” as an globe, territory. The Internet addresses of the Voyirim.rf project. "Mir.rf" is the same "Russian world", the same one that has recently stated itself loudly. In fact, you can sign under the Russian Federation - "War and Mir.rf".

- We are returning to my answer to the last question. Of course, they wanted to use it, those very meanings, otherwise they would not have been spent, they wanted to use the concept of “peace”, and the concept of “. RF”, and the concept of “Russian world”, and the concept of “sovereignty”, and the concept of “war”. They are language people, that is, very attentive to this. Apparently, when this project was approved in the instances, all this was spelled out. For this business they read Tolstoy. Firstly, their audience is really very advanced, the grandmothers still sat and looked at the bandits, they are police officers, on the NTV channel. Or a “voice”, where they sing, and not fight, where it is not one and a half million, but 20 million spectators. В этом смысле у них тоже не получилось. То есть у них получилось под это дело сделать проект, но не получилось навязать те самые идеологемы, ради которых они начинали это дело.