"Music is the most developing industry in the world, along with computer"

November 27 at the Adidas TouchDown party! (The name was mentioned by agreement with the organizers of the event) made the DJ-Seeta Ivan Dorn-Look at Me talked with the musician about the most important events and things of this year, played a simple game with him and discussed fresh music.

Ivan Dorn

musician

"Whatever we say, our most important PR is a song"

Intro

In general, what is your publication?

Well, I don't even know ...

Something non-trivial, something unpopular, something underground, something niche ....

Yes, rather niche.

That is, if the reader is the most devoted, right? Cool. This is my style.

In general, it seemed to me funny that you are performing with Kellya here .... Because a year ago I spoke with Kellya and put the track “Sportivnaya”.

Seriously?

Yes.

Go nuts.

“And she said that it was like a Neposul of 99.” She really liked it. This was the only performer she asked to record.

To go nuts, seriously?

Yes.

And for the first time, when I heard Keella - they laid out in Indie Music - I immediately fell in love with her and then in the list of my favorite artists for a long time indicated her and her first album. And when I found out today that she was going to us, of course, I got fucked up. Some fate, mysticism, is very cool. Class! Did she really say that?

Yes, yes, yes ...

Go nuts! Go nuts! Then Creed was not simple yet.

It's true. What can you tell her at all when meeting?

What is when meeting? Well, you probably know ... to drink. I would drink with her. I would immediately take the Russians by the method. I would immediately drink something with her. And that's it. Further as it goes already.

About music, his own and alien

In general, are there any musicians whose opinion about you would be important?

Of course, of course ... Do you want me to list them?

Certainly.

Well, the most musical for sure. That is, do not take it on the expense, are we familiar or not? Doesn't matter?

Yes, it doesn’t matter at all.

Bumbox, Vakarchuk, Zemfira, Mujus, On-The-Go, Guru Groove Foundation, Born, Jamal, Mannequin, Onuka. Listen, I used to be limited to three performers. I like it!

And if you take above? Any foreign?

Well ... legendary, in the sense? Sting, George Michael, Stevie Uander, Farrell, Mark Ronson, Groove Armada. Well, I don’t know, there are also an infinite number ... But note that I thought less with these very ones, with Russian performers, estimate?

And if any negative topics? I read in an interview that comments are just from the audience, they rather challenge some kind of challenge. And the comments from colleagues, if they are negative? It somehow, I don’t know, hurts, or something, something like that?

From colleagues?

Yes, that is, from musicians. Not necessarily just from your group.

Well, among the musicians, there are also musicians, but there are ... not quite musical. That is, we have under the category of musicians, in principle, everyone who is connected with music, but in fact it is not so. There are musicians. From non-musical musicians for me, this is still a challenge. And from the rest, I perceive criticism normally, I just go deeply into my thoughts, for a long time, I begin to rethink, review, listen, compare and already draw my own conclusions.

It seemed to me that you love hip-hop ...

Hip-hop. Certainly.

I think this is noticeable. Which of the latter hooked?

Well, Kendrick Lamar, well, maybe almost the penultimate one, Joui Badess is such a rapper, so I liked him. There is also one, there is one. Then I like Childish Gambino too. In general, I like those in which music is not inferior to verbal Floo. Because for me - as not for a native speaker - first of all, music is important. Therefore, I pay attention to this.

Well, Kendrick and Donald (Glover)-they just somehow verify everything conceptually.

It seems to me that they themselves are not entirely able to do this. They just boldly experiment with the producers who do it to them. Type Thundercat or Bilala.

In general, many are now talking about the rise of Russian hip-hop. Do you like anything?

Rebirth ... You know, I put a scriptonite yesterday, I liked it. I like what Basta has been doing lately. For some reason. I like it ... I’ll say now. The last album of Oximiron. Well, of course, FUUZ (the name of the rapper is specified by the manager of the musician) , Assai.

And scriptitis, oximiron? What are they, for example, cling?

Oximiron rather verbal juggling. And scriptitis is impeccable Floo. This is already such ... very even ... how can this be said ... Well, that is, this thing can be made in contrast to American music. In terms of Floo, because, first of all, Floo is that which gives rise to some kind of confidence. What you eat first. If there is no flow, then there is no rap, in principle. Words save, but secondly. And in this case, it seems to me that the scripts is one of the few who is doing this very, very right.

And if we talk about words. You are now writing in English EP, as far as I know. Much more difficult than in Russian?

Well, of course. More difficult, yes, yes, yes. Immediately how, juggling in English is much fewer options. Therefore, the texts are still written faster. It is more difficult to come to some kind of singing solution. That is, for example, the words are selected under the melody, so that it is convenient to sing later. In this case, you are less starting from the text, you are more starting from how convenient this word is to sing.

Does this continue to the Randorn idea?

- No no. Well, that is, Randorn in the sense of diverse?

Yes, yes.

Then yes. Yes. But the concept will still be closer to electronics, less lively, but also diverse and unpredictable. Well, I hope. It's just one of the little that we can bring innovative there.

All this together caused a bunch of emotions in me, I almost cried with happiness, when I just heard this Romanian techno, damn it.

And in terms of electronics ... are there any specified guidelines now? Something like that. Simply, what inspires?

You know, I was recently inserted by the Romanian techno. I listened to the Romanian techno in the car of my friend in America. I will not say that the grass worked on me like that. I heard a lot of house music in the same car. But when I heard this Romanian techno ... I never thought that electronic music would basically cause me goosebumps. I asked to stop, open the doors, and we began to dance. Because this Romanian folklore, these Romanian drugs and this Romanian some kind of Romanian ... The Romanian underground, in short,-all this together caused a bunch of emotions in me, I almost cried with happiness when I just heard this Romanian techno, damn it. Seriously.

And anything else except that? It didn’t work the same, at least it hurt ...

Now I will say .... I was hit by the presentation of the Farrelovsky track Freedom on Glastonbury, when everyone heard the song for the first time. The classics now began to listen, again. Yes, all ... from our ... Prokofiev, Khachaturian to the sheet, Chopin ... Rachmaninov, by the way, is still. Schubert. Mozart. I have a whole ... (pause) such a voice, because we celebrated yesterday, we took the M1 award.

Yes, I saw a speech .

Did you like it?

Yes, cool. Actually here is the question. When the moment comes, after what time that the song is completely tired of it? When it needs to be redone ... "Bigudi" on the "Picnic of the posters" was redone.

"Bigudi" was redone. "I hate" remade. "Foncaman" was redone. "Northern Lights" remoded a little. We remade five tracks from the old album, which we actually perform.

How is it - because the main hits or just want?

Naturally, the main hits, they actually are more often performed. In any case, it comes as if time. A new team came - new versions came. Here, probably, with the advent of some new musical ideas, not mine, and new versions of the songs appear.

"Avalized/underestimated"

There is a proposal to play a very short game. It is called "reassessed/underestimated." I just call a thing, and you say “overvalued” or “underestimated” and why.

Wow, and if I don’t know someone, I can say “I don't know”?

Yes, sure!

OK! And you won't laugh?

No, I will not! Kanye West.

That is, I can’t say “everything is OK”, only “reassessed/underestimated”?

Yes.

Seriously?

Yes.

But what about it? Fine. Kanye West ... Good. Revised!

Why?

Because I can’t say “okay”. It is somehow impossible to say “underestimated”. This is obviously not so, therefore, “reassembled” closer. Well, of course, Kanye West has pieces that reach mass inertia. Therefore, here it will be more appropriate.

Yeah. Bigmak.

Underestimated. Underestimated, definitely.

Why?

Well, because people take it not enough ... I stood in lines at McDonald's and I know that they take more dubble-chizburgers, cheescurgers, and hamburgers-this is the most popular. Bigmak is definitely underestimated. If I stand in line, then only behind Bigmak.

Arkady Ukupnik.

Reassed.

Why?

Because his face is still shown among the stars sitting at the New Wave contest.

But the "new wave" ... You are there from time to time there.

Not anymore.

Everything is already? Good, marmalade bears.

Reassed.

Why?

Well, too sweet.

And what instead?

Well, "Mishka Haribo." Or are you talking about them?

Yes.

Then underestimated.

Why?

Although no, overestimated. Why? Because they eat all my enamel. I have no enamel because of them. Shooters.

Phil Collins.

(Sangs I can't dance.) This one, right? I don’t know ... I don’t even know how, how, how it is perceived in the world, to be honest. I think he is legendary anyway. Well, if the legendary, then overvalued.

Space.

Underestimated.

Why?

Because we are still not there.

But now this topic is rising very in -depth.

I do not feel it, I did not feel on myself.

I didn't want to become an astronaut in childhood?

I wanted, of course. I wanted to. But I also wanted to be a bus driver.

And if you combine?

Well, yes. Space bus type. Cool. That is, I am like a Virgin pilot or some kind of spaceship from Virgin.

Where would it fly?

Well, probably, at first I would have looked at the moon. And then he would start on this new tenth planet, which was now opened, it seems to be in our galaxy.

But she is small as Pluto.

Well, yes, yes, yes. I do not remember what is called. But to look at her. Make sure: she is ours or not ours. The boundaries may have gone to install some.

And if even further?

I would like to see the second sun, I wonder if it exists.

About pop culture and technology

In general, now they talk a lot about the Star Wars. Will you go?

I'll go. Because everyone is saying.

That's why?

Yes. Well, no, I watched all six parts. But I have already forgotten all six parts.

Was it long ago?

And in order to just remember, I do not have time. Yes, for a long time. For a long time. Seven years ago or six.

It doesn't seem to you that there are too many continuations now, this is all? No?

Like "James Bond"? What else?

"Avengers."

Ah, Avengers? Well, this has always been a lot. It seems to me that it’s not even enough. Compared to past years.

Is it worth doing this in music?

Continuations?

Yes.

Continuations ... Randorn 2.

Why not?

Not really. Music is the most developing industry in the world. Along with the computer. Therefore, it makes no sense to insist on continuing. We need to move.

Are there any technical innovations that excited? Or technology news?

Well, of course. I like the monocoles that they came up with. Quadrocopterers. Periscope. They showed me today - a cool topic. All.

I didn't think to make a broadcast?

No-no-no-no. I better look just.

And what, don't like it?

Oh well.

In general, how do you feel about social networks? Or aren't you sitting very much there?

I treat them normally. But I am not very much in them.

Just doesn't pull?

Yes, I just forget about them.

Which country are you going to start from? When there will be English EP. America? Britannia?

We will do this. We will send our songs on all potential blogs that would have been interested in this music. Specifically, this song is even. And we will wait for resonance. When we get a resonance, we will understand what to remove the vidos. We will remove the video and wait for the proposal from the labels. And already with the labels we will worship the whole world. These are my plans.

And what, for example, blogs?

Don't know. They told me that ... (Laughs.)

In general, I wanted to ask, did it not seem to you, according to comments and other things, that people become in the comments?

(He leaves for the phone.) Just be published.

Great, of course.

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(The poem “Changes” sounds.) Therefore, those who pay attention to this, they say “Yeah, too many evil comments”. And those who do not turn ...

And purely for people there is no such thing? Not on the Internet.

Don't know.

What should the musician do in 2015? In 2016 even. What should it be? Relaxed, collected?

Fuck knows him. According to the latest events, it seems to me that he should be ready to know the sacred Qur'an by heart.

No, well, in principle, yes.

And so no more other wishes, it seems to me, is not. (Laughs.)

Didn't you look just a Maya clip? There about refugees, about all that.

No. She, by the way, is an amateur. Eastern events.

Well, she can. How is it? Is it terribly perceived?

Certainly. I am so suspicious in this regard, naive. If I hear the news, I leave my head for as long as 15 weeks. I only moved away from France. Therefore, it is better not to ask. And then I'll start falling now.

Better not to read the news? Not to know anything about it?

Well, I'm doing this, just not all news passes me by. Even if I don't read them. But when it flies, it flies thoroughly.

Well, I will probably ask the last question. Have you seen the last clip of Drake?

Certainly. At first we got hooked on the song when we arrived in America. She spun there everywhere, and we simply could not ignore her. More precisely, she could not bypass us. And at some point we already understood when she plays, that we simply cannot. And then, when I arrived, I began to look for this song to put: dudes, in America it was the leitmotif of the whole trip. This is this track. We searched and shed, and I came across a clip.

Today, by the way, Eric Badu was released by a mixed, which is completely dedicated to this song. She seeds, makes caverses, there she reads a dude under Drake. And all that.

Go nuts.

It does not seem to you that if you are a successful musician now, then you need to make yourself a meme or something like that? To be dismantled on gifs, on the pictures ... or is there any other way?

Of course there is, music! Our path, in principle, has always been music. Here they tell us: we must go out so, we must say that, do it. But no matter what we say, our only PR is not the only one, but the most important is a song. A bet is on it, the rest is an additional nuance. And I still remain a supporter of this. You see, if you write cool tracks, Drake can even go out of the ass so that it is disassembled on gifs, but if there are no these tracks, no one will disassemble it. Accordingly, all this is explained only by creativity. No more or less.

If there is a song, then would you make some kind of clip so that it is disassembled to gifs, with yourself?

Well, I would not pursue such an ultimate goal. But something special, one hundred percent, would do. In principle, each time we try to do. Did you like "rowing"?

I also liked the album. Or a clip?

Clip!

The clip is cool. The songs that the clip is being shot on - they are not always the most obvious, as it seems to me.

Like not always the last question, the last question. (Laughs.) Now I will tell you. But our obvious, yes.

I am to the fact that the "rowing" was not the most obvious single.

Unobvious, really. “Obvious Singles are too simple,” I thought. And we took off to another song. We wanted to shoot at the "Blessy" initially when we went to America. And already in America they changed their minds.

Do you regret it?

No, I do not regret. Is it worth it?

Yes, it is unlikely.

It seems to me too. Because in aggregate everything turned out well, and the majority speaks flattering. Someone does not like the girl, someone is a boy, but everything is normally talking about the song and about the clip too. Well, not all ... In any case, the component of the fact that something happened, synthesis is that something likes. Or the song shit, the video is normal. Or the clip shit, the song is normal. Or even that and that. Here.

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