
Social networks - about the "roofing" of doping at the state level
The scandal that erupted after the sensational confessions of the former head of the anti -doping laboratory is gaining momentum - in an interview with the New York Times, he said that the numerous medals at the Olympics in Sochi went to Russian athletes - in particular, the prohibited drugs were taken by the skier Alexander Legalkov, Bobsleist Alexander Zubkov and skeletonist Alexander Tretyakov. Most commentators have no doubt that Grigory Rodchenkov told the truth.
Previously, the defectors were from the KGB, now from the sports committee!
I am correctly understanding that the recognition of Rodchenkov is as if they had to tell everything, Tretyakov and Zubkov themselves?
The Great Doping Olympiad
I have no doubt that the ex-head of the Moscow anti-doping laboratory Rodchenkov tells the truth. The Great Doping Olympiad in Sochi became an unprecedented event in the history of sports. For the first time in world practice, the organizers created a “conveyor” system of unpunished provision of their athletes with doping, including a massive substitution of doping test results.
There is nothing surprising in this. In Russia, people from special services are in power. In this environment, it is customary to achieve the goal set by the authorities by any means. Deception, provocations, murders, sublogging - all this is not considered shameful if it serves the interests of the “case”. Remember the war against Ukraine: how many lies, provocations, secret special operations were. People who are accustomed to use a certain set of methods for solving problems use it in any field. It doesn’t matter what goal is facing them: to capture Crimea or win at the Olympics.
I’m only afraid that we learned from Rodchenkov not the whole truth about Sochi. I do not think that the Chekists, providing their victory, would refuse the opportunity to interfere with other people's athletes. I remember, for example, a completely unexpected catastrophic performance of the famous Japanese skater Mao Assad in a short program. Before and after that, she spoke brilliantly. And here is a complete failure. The Mao completely dumbfounded by the incident later said that the body refused to listen to her. As a result, the Russian skater won. I am not surprised if the same special services who replaced doping tests to Russian athletes slightly fucked the Japanese and, possibly, some other foreign wagon participants.
Ahead of the World Cup in Russia. I'm afraid that not only the honor of world football, but also the health of the players in danger.
Regarding the fact that the New York Times published today. Just a few days before all this whistle began in the fall (part of it, by the way, was two sudden deaths of people from the Russian anti -doping department), a colleague who was seriously engaged in this story, told me that the Operation Pure Sochi was developed and implemented by the office. Of course, he did not receive any evidence for the recorder.
It is amazing how Rodchenkova was missed.
The regime policy is incomprehensible. Here is Grigory Rodchenkov - he was familiar with the top -secrets of the politics of the Russian Federation, twisted there with doping, complied with an important order at the Olympics. And he is easily released to America - expose us there, give out the interview! What, it was impossible to initiate a business and do a damn thing? It's all strange somehow ...
And some reaction from the IOC to the story of Rodchenkov, what did they do there with doping tests and mixtures of all rubbish with whiskey? I can't find something. If this is true, you need to cancel all the results of the competition in Sochi 2014.
The reaction soon followed: Dmitry Peskov called Rodchenkov's words "slander the defector." The official defense line, thus, is built on the concept of "unreliable witness."
A few words about a doping scandal organized by our overseas friends.
If you discard all emotions, we have the following. <An unpleasant person>, rightly dismissed from the Russian WADA based on the results of the previous scandal with athletics, for, if you call a spade a spade, incompetence and collapse of work, fled to the States and takes revenge on those who, as it seems to him, made it extreme. Sunday takes revenge or disinterestedly - a secondary and rhetorical issue.
My opinion is.
Regardless of whether it was true that it was reported by Rodzhchenkov, or fiction (by the way, he escaped to America, he was there) a person witnessed, or, more likely, a false witness against his homeland.
Rodchenkov’s crime can not be left without punishment.
It must be caught and brought to Russia to Russia.
Gentlemen, the patriots -state are built today - who am once again observing - a very funny line of defense <...>. We will follow the whimsical course of their thoughts.
For example, the famous (in my LiveJournal) troll Alexei Badaikin writes: “Are you ready to accept Rodchenkov’s stories without hesitation and without doubting? How do you all have this story at all? Rodchenkov actually says - I lied for more than a year, fraudulent and famed on money and other nishtyaki!”
That is, the logic is this: Rodchenkov, however, says that he replaced test tubes from athletes - it means that he is a fraudster; How can you believe a fraudster ??
We, therefore, believe Rodchenkov when he says that he replaced the test tubes - and therefore we consider him a liar and a fraudster. But if he is a liar and a fraudster - therefore, he actually replaced the test tubes. That is, he is not lying. If he is not lying, then he is not a fraudster? If he is not a fraudster, then we must believe him. And he says that he replaced the test tubes. So he is still a fraudster. If so, we should not believe him. That is, he did not replace any test tubes, domestic sport is clean! Mmmm ... But if he has not replaced anything and the domestic sport is clean, then he is not a fraudster ?? Wait a lot! Then we must believe him! And well - it turns out, he tells the truth that he replaced the test tubes ??? And if ...
In general, in this circle you can run forever - which I wish all "patriots -stateors."
And how did he even become the director of the National Anti -Doping Laboratory? Someone is responsible for such appointments, what is their order, who puts forward candidates, who agrees?
I will write a text about Rodchenkov.
This is all in fact even worse than he said. The fact is that he was caught in doping trading, his sister was convicted because he slyly did it through her. Naturally, with a guarantee that they will not find doping. And Rodchenkov himself with a schizopathic disorder fell into a psychiatric hospital. Having left the psychiatric hospital with accusations of doping trade that no one removed, he remained the head of the laboratory and was the main anti -doping in Sochi.
Appointments to the laboratory were carried out by the Ministry of Sports and personally the Minister of Mutko.
I just don’t know what he needs to be done to be kicked out. The appointment of a person from a psychiatric hospital with accusations of trading doping and substitution of samples is not enough.
By the way, the Americans are also great ... they took him to their anti -doping laboratory.
Actually, anti -doping itself must be shaken like FIFA. To clean all, there this will be opened. And not only in Russia.
The opinion that everyone uses doping, but they are prosecuted allegedly only by Russians is widespread.
The general opinion is that everyone applies doping, and ours caught, because the American shits, envies and presses.
In general, a universal argument - everyone is stealing, killing, dismembering the organs, pissing to bed, and they do not wash. You can now choose the answer now.
The most powerful destructive weapon that the people have been thrown over in recent years is cynicism. Absolute, paralyzing, corrupting, leveling any reaction. Indulgence on blessed passivity.
And in a situation where you need to yell at the obscenities "that you have ruined cattle" - a sluggish leaning on the surface of the swamp. And the replica on duty "they themselves ...".
Doctor of the Finnish national team Sergei Ilyukov in Interview Sports.ru comments on this statement as follows:
Doping is a problem not only in Russia. The current situation where a special emphasis is on Russia is imbalanced. There are countries that should cause no less attention in this matter.
But imbalance, alas, is clear. Attention to Russia is too emphasized, everything looks celebration. But, given the political situation, this is explainable psychologically.
Do you use doping? Of course not. This is a statement in favor of the poor, the justification of the helpless. To one degree or another, there is a problem in many countries. But even without doping, it is absolutely real to achieve high results.
Now the situation is such that doping is a means of achieving success, and he does not have an alternative. <...>
The foundation should be built before. To invest in personnel and their development is not very customary with us. You can’t especially earn on this and the “cut” - as, for example, on expensive equipment.
Now we have come to a standstill - and snapping. And what remains?
The Russian problem is not only that athletes use doping, but also that this happens at the direct instructions of the leadership:
There are no special doubts that the doping in Russia was roofed (and, possibly, roofing) at a high state level. Another autumn investigation WADA designated mechanisms how all this can work.
But the attitude to the words of Rodchenkov with the share of the skepticism will be justified: in this situation (when he is the criminal), he can, of course, tell not everything or not quite as it was.
Skepticism by skepticism, but state support for this method of achieving victories may soon lead to the fact that Russian athletes will be removed from participation in the Olympics in Rio de Janeiro. And this is well understood by Vitaly Mutko, who the day before apologized for Russian athletes in a column published by Sunday Times . On the Web, his words reacted ambiguously:
I am sure that they will not show it anywhere and write. Moreover, they will ring everywhere that everyone is using doping.
But the fact remains: Mutko recognized the accusations and asked for forgiveness.
The Mutko article in The Sunday Times can be interpreted as follows: there were still substitutions of anti-doping control in Sochi.
The fact that the Minister of Sports Mutko wrote a repentant (as if) letter in Sunday Times indicates the scale of the problem - it is apparently so gigantic that they decided to partially recognize to hide. This is not us, Mutko writes, these are athletes themselves. That is, to hand over part of the athletes, but to return the federation to the Olympics in Rio. Although it is clear that everything from above that the team was - sports victories at all costs. Because this is the main policy and there are victories. But at the same time, the years of investment in sports, people are too long, and it is impossible to get into a long way for a long time - they themselves do not believe in their perspective, therefore - quickly and with a guarantee - to earn at the Olympic construction, to pump up athletes with steroids and show on TV. Done! And then the decomposition of this victory begins, because if at all costs, then the price can make victory to be aware. And then you can be indignant - an information war, etc.
I decided to merge the athletes in a craft, naively hoping that he himself would not suck after.
Mutly begging.
He recognized everything and asks for mercy.
This is all you need to know about the Russian special path.
There are also frankly mocking reactions:
"Rush Nou Doping In Rio. Excusis Fore Bad Sochi control. Efesby Panish Itself. Nou criminality," wrote Vitaly Mutko in Sunday Times.
- PERZIAN ROISIS (@Kermlinrussia) May 15, 2016
In a column for Sunday Times, Mutko apologized for poor counteraction of doping in Russia. Although it was necessary to apologize for good assistance.
An apology apology, but the likelihood that Russian athletes will be excommunicated from the Olympics in Rio is quite real.
Interestingly, there is enough powder after all doping scandals and revelations to just return the contributions that have not yet been spent and show the NOC of Russia to the door? Because the participation of the team so impregnated with the doping in the Olympic Games is just an insult to the Olympic principles in itself.
Commentators are already wondering what will happen to the 2018 Football Championship.
... And you can already ask about the fate of the Russian WC-2018? ...
or so far to be silent? ... ((
In the meantime, it remains only to talk about whether it is necessary to prohibit doping in professional sports.
More about doping. The matter is very serious. In a political sense, he smells of Crimea-2. We are talking about a revision of the results of Sochi-2014. And fundamental. This is if you describe the situation technically. And if in emotions from the Russian side - we want to take away our national triumph from us. If nothing happens to Rodchenkov, and now it is not at all necessary that something happens to him, then the process awaits us. Russia cannot accept all the requirements of this process - we hang on the hook of the World Cup. Building faces, hobbing, hunting around the world for Rodchenkov will not work - they will simply take the championship. Nobody needs this - the world is least of all. In this case, the world receives a brutal-to-the-Russian country with the second army. Therefore, negotiations-trail will go about the form of guilty, its borders.
This is almost comical, because it is a radical collapse of modern quotes of "permissible deception" - we played in Sochi with peace in an archaic game. Something like a thimble. Moreover, the fsb special services were bred. I am sure that no one put such a task to these people who replaced samples through a sawed opening in the wall. The task was the successful holding of the Olympics. Dramatically overdid it.
There, perhaps, there was something funny. A colleague told me, for example, about the well -coordinated work of second -meters in Bobslane competitions, where ours performed very successfully and all decided thousandths of a second. Some kind of O'Genry.
Tomorrow you will receive thousands of comments, scripts about this. But I want to say about something completely different.
I am not a fan of Valery Panyushkin's work. Well, just - not at all. But after Scanadal with Sharapova, he published a wonderful post on Snob - wonderful for Panyushkin with his immoralist questioning.
He wonders: what the hell is the world hunting athletes, but forgives everything to the creators of alcoholics and drug addicts? Why does no one disqualify their books, paintings?
After all, Venichka desperately doping, and therefore wrote his immortal poem. But some moderately drinking member of the Union of Writers also wanted to write something immortal, but he could not, because he cared about the family. Or is it not why he was barren?
The most amazing thing in this sports history is that doping does not guarantee victories. Doping somewhere gives something, but also takes away. Maybe more than gives. Because consciousness tells you: I am at doping - I will do everyone. You can not defeat doping in team sports, tennis, boxing.
Does Bjorndalen win everyone without doping? Or with doping? That's why he wins. We know. Armstrong, damn him, is not therefore won.
Nabokov was an athlet. Tolstoy has not violated the regime all his life. But Dostoevsky started, drew, infuriated himself with gambling. Therefore, he could not write "war and peace", and Tolstoy - "Karamazov brothers."
This is a damn difficult problem. And exactly two exit from it. Or people themselves decide, as artists or writers, what to swallow, sniff before the act of creation. Let them write receipts before the competition - in my death I ask you to blame me. Or, again, you need to tie with the Olympic Games. In my opinion, it's time to tie it.
And if you do not tie it, then professional sport will become what it should be - the cast of life, an act of art, the most powerful in the world of happy, and not the notorious "propaganda of a healthy lifestyle" - ha -ha. With a stamp +18. Like pornography.
Here the person crossed the first finish target, fell and died. The heart could not stand it. And he became Jim Morrison of athletics for centuries: do you want, son, so briefly and glorious to live life? Nope, dad, I don't want to.
Anton Nosik considers the idea to allow doping quite sensible:
In my opinion, it is quite obvious that technical issues here are trying to solve instead of fundamental ones. And to anyone who wants to see in this policy is open the widest conspiracy thestatic scope.
Apparently, Grigory Rodchenkov adheres to the same opinion:
A brilliant crazy with disheveled hair, one of the best specialists in the world. For ten years he led our anti-doping laboratory, and more recently it was not clear what he brought more-benefits or harm (now it is clear). A hundred percent product of the Soviet system, a master of sports in athletics (ran medium and long distances), not at heart does not understand why this doping control is needed. “Stromobochka, my lovely!” He told me in private conversations about his sports experience and smacked his lips. Stromba is another name steroid stanosolol, one of the most popular in the 1970-80s among athletes around the world. Now it makes no sense to use it, anabolics are quite easy. But some of ours continue to do this - they do not know how to do it.
But many commentators do not agree:
There are rules in sports, but there is no art. If we cancel the rules about doping, why then do not allow to blow all the runners on the neighboring paths - and here we have a winner!
Professional sport and art unites only vanity. Read or not read the broom of the personal business of everyone. Talent is not given any doping. And to achieve a momentary result, to defeat, pumping yourself with doping - switches.
ну, связка между спортом и здоровым образом жизни — это ж совсем какой-то детсадовский миф по нашим временам. кто там из них здоровяк-то, за пределами поля или ринга? цирк же мы не ассоциируем с ЗОЖ, а цирк — тот же спорт, просто не состязательный. в желании непременно, любой ценой, вырвать у соперника победу, к здоровью никакого отношения не имеет.
Тогда, наверное, нужно разделить спортивные соревнования на два, как минимум, вида: первый - демонстрация естественных физических возможностей человеческого тела, а второй - фрик-шоу, допускающий допинг в любых видах и количествах, вплоть до пришития третьей (или больше) ноги, вживления дополнительных мышц и так далее, и тому подобное, человеческая изобретательность, в сущности, бесконечна.
Кстати, соревнования певцов — тоже в некотором роде спорт, напоминают комментаторы:
А не пора ли и участников Евровидения проверять на допинг?
PS: а заодно и на виолончели
Алхимикам Роисси срочно поступило задание разработать допинг для певцов для победы на Евровидении. pic.twitter.com/IQ75Cy1YWQ
— Team of ZinaPortnova (@ZN_PRTNOVA) May 15, 2016
Одна надежда - найти у Джамалы допинг
— водка и мельдоний (@treugolny_hui) May 14, 2016
Сегодня Путин уволил Мутко и Бортникова. За то, что вчера не обеспечили замену мочи Сергея Лазарева.
— Slava Rabinovich (@RabinovichSlava) May 15, 2016


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