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Murderous homophobia
Discussion of the mass execution in Orlando resulted in a feast of mutual hatred
The massacre in the Pulse night club has become one of the most bloody tragedies that shocked the world in recent years. Now that the media reports everything in the slightest detail, it seems that to terrible events - a stone's throw.
The world is so compressed, especially in grief, that I have a complete feeling that the club in Orlando is around me, like Babaklan
While we rested, celebrated and drank, a terrible tragedy occurred in the USA. We pray for the dead. No intolerance!
Spontaneous memory promotions have passed around the world.
The action of the memory of the victims of the attack in Orlando (in the rebus is encrypted: “Love is stronger than hatred”) photo Reuters/Mike Blake pic.twitter.com/ruliy4raxc
- Slon Magazine (@slonmagazine) June 13, 2016
Russian cities did not stand aside: in Moscow and St. Petersburg, people carried flowers and candles to the embassy and consulate.
Muscovites bring flowers to the US Embassy after the execution in Orlando. Photo @othherbunus pic.twitter.com/ualr10dzv2
- Anastasia Zotova (@alasta_ven) June 13, 2016
President Putin expressed condolences to the families of the dead, and the pro -government media abstained from reading morality. If you do not look at the social network, one would think that Russia began to turn face to Western civilization.
Alas, the networks were soon filled with posts and comments in which a terrible execution was justified. One of these posts was left on Instagram Ramil Ibrahimov, head of the Union of Young Leaders of Innovation of Tatarstan:
The head of the Union of Young Leaders of Innovation of Tatarstan supported the murder of 50 people in Orlando https://t.co/zsmf7p3x0v pic.twitter.com/ocgbkupigy
- Rustem Adagamov (@adagamov) June 13, 2016
I am lost in conjecture what it was? Is something wrong with innovation in Tatarstan? Whether the guy drank on the weekend and his roof moved?
By the way, Ibragimov’s recording on Instagram is nothing more than a public justification for terrorism. And this is part 1 of Article 205.2 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, which provides for up to 5 years in the colony.
I remember Ibragimov since the time when he appeared on the air of the Kazan broadcast "Ether" as the leading program "Interception" .... A cute, narcissistic boy. I couldn’t say anything else about him. Neither good nor bad .... until yesterday. But even today I am not a supporter of Ibragimov’s prosecution to criminal liability. But the fact that you need to drive this rot from work in the field of innovation - I think, you should not even discuss. Give a broom and a shovel in his hands, let him work in the field of improvement .... maybe he will grow wiser ...
The mayor of Almetyevsk renounced the innovator who justified the terrorist attack in Orlando https://t.co/0mrxixdze0
- Pavel Chikov (@pchikov) June 13, 2016
Unfortunately, on the basis of the terrorist attack, the roof moved not only with the young innovator. Even the press secretary of the Foreign Ministry could not stand it and reported the commentators:
The comments of "dead in Orlando are not a pity - they are gay" are simply disgusting. Behind the facet of good and evil, the reasoning "with their same -ladity, they themselves set the cross in their lives."
And if they shot children with a delay in development, they would say something like "the fifty gifts were less"? And if the attack was completely on the maternity hospital, apparently, it would be worth it to first study the personal file of every patient - what's the fault?
There I would like to send people who believe "sympathy impossible in connection with ...." - millions of reasons are called. From "but they don’t sympathize with us" to "they played out." Because it's time to decide: either human sympathy or sympathy for socio-political beliefs.
It is strange for me to write all this, but I will do it all the same.
1. The issues of any preferences cannot be solved by weapons.
2. It is impossible to defend even the most correct, traditional values if you are not compassionate.
Of course, the reactions in the spirit of "so it is necessary" can be observed every time in the West there is a tragedy - Ilya Klishin recalls:
I remember very well the day when I had stylistic disagreements with some of my fellow citizens. It was September 12, 2001, the day after the attacks in America. I only turned 14 years old. As usual, I went to school from my working village - and waited for the bus on the highway. At the stop, the crowd discussed, of course, the latest news. The tone was set by grandmas, which were shrill due to something like “they need”. No one objected to them. Nobody. Not a single person. Inside me, something began to bubble, indignation was torn out. I did not know why they were wrong, but I realized that they were wrong. I felt that I was vile from their cowardice. It was not even the books that I read, and not in the way my parents raised me. It is impossible to rejoice in the death of innocent people. It's just like that. “You are not ashamed,” I said loudly in my broken voice and stepped aside. It became quiet from behind, only an evil whisper raced
But this case is special.
Those who organized this attack (and that this is still an attack, and not the rally faking action, I am 98%confident) precisely to such a resident reaction and counted. Like gays, it’s not a pity. And the guy who broke the tower on the basis of disgusting homosexuals can be understood. Therefore, those who say that there is no need to express the condolences of gay -comet are, of course, not terrorists. But this is their "support group". Those are still bastards, sorry for my jacket.
Still, in the zoos it is necessary to create separate cells for users of social networks that rejoice in events like the execution in the gay club in Orlando
On the Web on this day, many arranged an action "Strive your homophobe" - or at least "recognize your homophobe."
I read in Frend-Lent about the battle in Orlando. Seven people banned, just took a dozen to hell with friends. This is some hell. In my head, damn it, does not fit.
I will not delete a single comment. You should know who lives next to you.
True, many of those who are tolerant of gays showed a complete absence of tolerance who are to migrants, who to Muslims, and who are to religion as such.
What a game and archaic in the head of those who begin their statements on the events in Orlando with ornate and clumsy excuses about their attitude to gays! Despite the fact that gay - for a long time - is so norm, even an excess that it is time to get out of use. Not to mention that orientation in this particular case does not matter at all. If you transfer the topic into the field of political populism, then of course I am for gays against the Islamists. What did you think?
America was harmful
for naturalized Afghan Omar
He would stay in Afghanistan and would be all alive
so not - you gave him the opportunity to move and that
<...> Everything is on the old bike-they took out a fool from the Sorrostan ... And they thought everything with a bundle-and the animalist from the fool Akazueza and not-you-in-zim
Who broke hundreds of lives, deprived the children of parents, and parents of children? You can say that Omar - a shooter, nee in the USA Afghan, did it. But you will be right only half. In fact, Omar, who himself lay 51m with a corpse on the floor, would never have thrown such a thing without all our beloved religion. Yes, in the same states (and not only) there are "school arrows", but then they do not go 300 km from the house to kill random people, they shoot at their tormentors and offenders. But what happened here? Surprise-scurry! The guy turned out to be a Muslim. They try not to talk about this in the news, they say, it is not known what was moving him to this step. But we see them through and understand them: religion. Religion killed as always killed. It is this rotten ideology of hatred for everything and everyone destroys, decomposes and encounters the foreheads of people for thousands of years.
What a horror: in Orlando a Muslim shot 50 visitors to a gay club. And something tells me that the reaction will be a ban on weapons, and not the work to identify aggressors in the Muslim community.
There really was a lot of disputes about whether to ban the free sale of weapons in the United States.
How can you allow you to keep weapons in our world as usual, not having for military structures, people? America wake up
If anyone in the club also had weapons, there could be fewer victims.
In the States, weapons are legally. None of the visitors shot him. I think that because they usually do not take weapons with them into nightclubs (plus they can trumply pick it up at the entrance, if the club is strictly with safety). Where do we usually get weapons? For football matches? When do they go to the supermarket? To the theater?
Friends, short -barrel for self -defense - this is one. Immediately we are talking about AR-15. Do you know what AR-15 is? This is a light automatic gun that produces up to dozens of bullets per second. It was used by mass killers not only in Orlando, but also before that in San Bernardino, and in 2012, the Male was shot them half a school in Connecticut.
The permission to own such weapons sharply increases the number of victims of such crimes, and the feasibility of its free civil circulation is generally incomprehensible.
They write that the Islamist -killer from Orlando had a license of a guard and therefore could wear weapons even according to the dragon laws of the Russian Federation, that is, the whole howl about "free sale of weapons kills" - generally by.
It was noted that the attacks and traditional values for some reason often go hand in hand.
I do not remember a single case that some kind of <A-Mad ”gay activist came to the club of traditional values and shot 50 people. Or, let's say, the same "crazy" Tolerast would have shot a children's camp of Norwegian nationalists. Or, if it is completely terrible, the finally confused supporter of the new theatrical trends would climb onto the stage of the Maly Theater and ashamed the audience with their traditions, and then doused the greenhouse.
And this, unfortunately, is not at all a paradox. Though you squeeze your eyes, there is no paradox in this.
Let's be honest and highlight the main constant unifying sign of terror of recent times - not every heterosexual is a terrorist. But all terrorists are heterosexuals.
The topic of homophobia was almost lost behind all this.
I can withstand the discussions of today's massacre in Orlando in the threads of the Russian Facebook with great difficulty. All trampled either the “problem of migrants”, or Gun Control, or both topics in different proportions. Despite the fact that the free turnover of weapons at least does not prevent mass executions, and the killer is a US citizen, a person born of a US citizen. Not to mention the fact that it is absurd to rant about the problem of migrants in the country, which, by definition, is absurd. And besides - not only the Islamists committed terrorist attacks: it is enough to recall the Protestant fundamentalists from Army of God, on the account of which the explosion in a lesbian bar.
But the main thing is what the right fighters with "Islamization" do not give a damn about, that’s what. This is a mass murder committed by homophobes, committed from hatred of homosexual people. One thousand excellent laws can be adopted by the decision of the US Supreme Court to recognize marriage equality (this is a great victory of the entire LGBT community, not only American, yes), to carry out all the aspirations of liberal, moderate gay activists. But hatred does not disappear anywhere, the poison of the patriarchal consciousness itself does not evaporate. From this it is necessary to draw proper political conclusions. But now there is no strength, there is only a terrible feeling that all this will never end.
What is impossible a terrible tragedy in Orlando ...
You asked how bad homophobes are than bad homophobia?
Everything is simple.
Homophobia kills.
The ex -killer's ex -wife said that he was an abuser. Could come home and start to beat her for not washing underwear, or under any other pretext. Her parents, having learned about this, arrived and simply pulled her out of the house, what was. Now she is sure that her parents literally saved her life.
This confirms what we talked about before: where there is homophobia, there is always some kind of type of hatred and violence, or several.
Violence has the ability to increase in a spiral. So the home rapist and homophobic, if it cannot be stopped in time, can become a killer - this is the lesson of this nightmare.
The world should be patient to “others” - otherwise everything ends with mass massacres as a gay club in Orlando, Florida, 50 victims of which are now mourning loved ones. "The father of the terrorist Mir Seddik said that once in Miami, Matin saw kissing men and was very angry:" Look at it! They do this in front of my son. "" - Newsru. Apparently, it is better to kill in front of his son's eyes. Rip.
Commentators tried to explain why gays could not hide endlessly, so as not to "tease" homophobes:
1. A man who killed 50 people in a gay club in Orlando, according to his father, was a homophobe whom the appearance of kissing men averted. He went to the gay club at the height of the party and to kill the pride consciously within a month, fulfilling his homophobic mission.
2. Gay clubs do not exist because it is such a whim, hang out in separate clubs, but because to meet a man with a man in a regular club without at least unpleasant, at least terrible consequences are almost impossible. It is also difficult to dance to a man with a man, to be himself and not meet the standards of masculinity that society considers unshakable in an ordinary club. In the gay club, most likely no one will say that someone there is "a ass too much, he is a fagot or something", everyone will just dance and have fun.
3. If a wonderful day comes once, when society ceases to even elementarily surprise the view of two kissing men, there will be practically no more gay clubs. In the most progressive cities of the United States there was a trend when gay clubs are increasingly filled with a heterosexual public, which is going to look at the Dreg of the show, for example, as a type of entertainment prevailing precisely in gay clubs. Gay-pairs or companies of gay friends do not feel the need to hang out only in gay clubs, as they feel safe in public institutions.
And yet I can’t stand it and write. Basically, for those who say that “prides are only annoying” and “do not stick out”. Or, for example, this: “There are so many problems in the world, Olya, why are you so worried about the LGBT question so much?” I am so worried about this question so much, because LGBT teenage is subjected to persecution, because many of them end with themselves because I can marry, but for some reason you can’t marry, because even anarchists and all sorts of green shy from rainbow flags, because once in the subway they shouted “Sodomites must be burned”. It was scary. But this is all about Russia. And here, look, not Russia at all. And not even the pride. And no one, the hell, did not stick out anything. People just came to the club at night.
Dina Sabitova very accurately writes that gays are new martyrs, like Jews in the 20th century. “They are killed only because they are gays. All the conversations about the "propaganda" of mythical in front of the fifty corpses are somehow faded. Gays do not go to kill ups for the fact that they are natural. ”
But there is an alternative picture of the world: the one in which gays are simply the personification of "Western values" and America as their main stronghold.
Nope. Here they are killed for the fact that they most vividly personify the civilization, which in general "kills ups" by millions. However, not only ups, according to the description of the morals of the Bedouin army according to T.E. Lawrence. Kills everyone.
Commenting on the incident, it is worth considering that gays made themselves the point of universal attention from themselves (which, of course, does not redeem, but significant). They would sit calmly, not in the role of the "Symbol of the Free World" - they would have shot, as usual, a children's camp, a youth disco or a prayer meeting.
But it is significant that people who completely ignored, for example, the bombardment of Lugansk, with her torn bombs of women in the square near the city administration, so “50 rainbow corpses in Orlando” are being brought up.
There are many corpses around the world. Enough not one Holocaust.
Sorry for everyone. But everyone chooses, by whom he will lament.
I suppose over the Afghans and Pashtuns, who, since 2004, only from the drones in the process of "fighting his own-handed al-Qaeda" at least 423 civilians, including two hundred children, none of the tears squeezed out.
And then they wonder where the "unmotivated hatred" comes from.
The cult of violence, hatred and intolerance to others, which the United States carries the world under the mask of democracy is the reason for the massacre in Orlando.
- Nikolai Starikov (@nstarikov) June 13, 2016
Leonid Volkov believes that the "civilization that kills", while fighting terrorist attacks better than the "peaceful" Russia:
Here, among other things, I thought: indeed, the most bloody terrorist attack in 15 years; 50 dead, 53 wounded. In the USA - in a country where weapons are sold freely; which officially and aggressively fights with terrorism around the world, and terrorism, respectively, fights with it; In a huge 300 millionth country.
How many more difficult and bloody terrorist attacks in Russia for these 15 years? I counted 6 immediately, and if you are leaning with Wikipedia, it turns out more than a dozen. Aircraft over Sinai, Dubrovka, Beslan, Volgograd and Rostov aircraft in 2004, attack on Nalchik ...
Well, that is, this collective generalmarkin in one word with a small letter that does not even hide the malevolent joy in the spirit of “so they need”, he, of course, is outside the bounds of good and evil, but besides all this: it turns out, in fact, objectively, the Americans after 9/11 have learned to fight terrorism very cool, there is something to learn.
But back to the main thing. Can a tragedy turn the attitude of the conservative part of society towards gays? Nikolai Nikiforov believes that yes:
Александр Баунов уверен, что извлечь уроки из трагедии вполне мог бы и президент России - раз уж он выразил свои соболезнования семьям жертв:
Владимир Путин выразил соболезнования пострадавшим в Орландо и написал Обаме, что в России "разделяют боль и скорбь тех, кто потерял своих родных и близких в результате этого варварского преступления”. Президент России объявил, таким образом, что разделяет боль и скорбь геев, их партнеров (в том числе по ненавистным гей-бракам), их родителей (которые, про таких говорили у нас еще недавно, не так воспитали детей), их друзей.
Расстрел гей-клуба религиозным фанатиком для российских начальников (как и реальных, так и мнимых — сотрясателей воздуха) должен стать поводом выйти из нелепой гомофобной ловушки, в которую они себя загнали в поисках общих ценностей с народом, чтобы заменить материальные, с которыми перебои.
Невозможно бороться против ИГИЛ и разделять с ним его базовую заповедь. <...>
После олимпиады, которую отодвинула в забытую даль украинская кампания, и в свою очередь была отодвинута вдаль сирийской, во время надежд на достижения дипломатические и экономические прорывы, российская антигейская кампания давно потеряла всякий смысл, если он когда-то у нее был. Пришло время забыть ее окончательно, другое сейчас просто неприлично и вредно.
Однако многие сомневаются, что это возможно.
Путин и Оланду телеграмму направлял, когда редакцию Шарли расстреляли. И я думаю, хотя нельзя, конечно, залезть в чужую голову, что в обоих случаях он соболезновал искренне. Но это же укладывается в простую человеческую логику: можно не одобрять ту или другую модель поведения, но нельзя убивать носителей этой модели. Про дипломатическую логику вообще молчу - как бы это он, интересно, избежал соболезнований президенту страны, в которой только что случился теракт с большим кол-вом жертв? В общем, я со вчерашнего дня читаю, что за телеграммой с соболезнованиями стоит нечто большее, чем телеграмма с соболезнованиями, и не могу взять в толк, на основании чего выводы.
Боюсь что со стороны такой текст выглядит манипуляцией, причем очень примитивной "так ты за ИГИЛ или за гей-идеологию?" А почему вообще надо быть за кого-то из этой пары? Почему, собственно, не выразить сочувствие жертвам убийства безотносительно к их идеологии и образу жизни? То, что человеку, к примеру, не нравятся национал-социалисты и и их преступления на территории СССР - еще не повод делаться пламенным сталинистом.
Между неприятием пропаганды гомосексуализма и убийством гомосексуалистов - пропасть.
Произошла трагедия - выразили соболезнования, все правильно. Что совершенно не означает, что следует еще и парад разрешить.
Это очень похоже на анекдот про козу, которую надо сперва взять в хату, а потом выгнать из хаты — и жизнь сразу наладится. Теперь, значит, нашему карликовому фюреру достаточно дать отмашку «геев больше не травить» — и умилённое человечество должно будет сразу простить кремлёвскому фашизму все остальные художества.
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Alya Ponomareva
Social Networks Editor Radio Liberty