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Hooligans are deprived of the degree
Vladimir Medinsky remained at the degree and called the critics of the myth of Panfilov "finished scum"
On October 4, the hero of the day was the Minister of Culture of the Russian Federation Vladimir Medinsky. A meeting of the dissertation council was scheduled for this day, at which he could be deprived of the degree of a doctor of historical sciences. The mistakes that the dissertation is full of was the occasion for ridicule : many were not too lazy to read the analysis and make their own (unflattering) opinion on the dissertation.
Today in Yekaterinburg, hearings should be held about the deprivation of the Minister of Culture of the Medinsky degree of Doctor of Historical Sciences. Few people believe in their success, although it is completely not clear how it may not be. In the statement written by the Doctor of Historical Sciences Vyacheslav Nikolaevich Kozlyakov, Doctor of Historical Sciences Konstantin Yuryevich Yerusalimsky and Ivan Babitski , errors, anecdotal, shameful for the primary school:
"So, for example, on page 240-241 Medinsky writes:“ As you know, the Orthodox believers were written in Russian, so it was easy to understand their content. The Catholics and Protestants had a different situation. They have a scripture in Latin, which the ordinary believers did not know. ”It is about the times of Ivan the Terrible. There is no need to be a historian in order to appreciate almost to evaluate The degree of ignorance of the author of this phrase is not true for the humanitarian scientist-in one sentence he managed to show that he did not know anything about such a phenomenon as Church Slavonic, nor about the translation of the Holy Scriptures into German, made by Luther.
A single example. "
And in fact, not a single one. http://wiki.dissernet.org/t../vsyakosyak/medinskyvr_zolus.pdf . I especially liked the phrase of Dr. Medinsky, contrasting Christians and Catholics. Like, Catholics are one thing, and Christians are very, very different. I once heard her from the workers who made repairs in the apartment. They still argued hotly with me in which Comrade Stalin died. I was almost crazy. Also moved forward science.
Sudden awareness of the absurdity of what is happening. Why am I sitting and reading a dissertation, forgive the Lord, Medinsky? Yes, and compare it with the original sources? Is this the best activity that should be spent on? Or at least in the first thousand candidates?
Damn these indefatigable curiosity and meticulousness.
But why are they so valuable to these dissertation titles? And in general, changed this (idiotic) practice "Dissernet" a little or not?
Still, a completely mysterious cult of doctoral degree among officials. Among other categories of the population, I do not observe it; And it is still interesting where he came from (Brezhnev, as I understand it, was not a doctor of sciences, for example). Medinsky was already a doctor of political science - and still defended himself in history, already writing all his crazy books. For what?
I think about doctors of science. Well, do we also have real ones? And these real ones, without any excitement, looked at the numerous with ... slag and ignorant work, someone received money and other joys, committed not ashamed that they were doctors and Medinsky doctor. No one said when defending: “Batenka, this is a complete garbage. Go to TV, but here is science. This is such a thing ... You still don’t understand.” And there were a hundred academicians and a corresponding member ... “By the way, what's with nobel? There are no our Americans again?
Vladimir Medinsky, by the way, is a real historian. Many of his subordinates are already stuck into history, some even sit.
- iVan davydov (@ivan_f_davydov) October 4, 2016
This is wonderful -
"Medinsky - ay !!! Someone !!! Help !!! Hooligans deprive the degree! Ay!"
The Minister of Culture called the application submitted to him about the deprivation of the degree "Donation":
"I consider this phantasmagoric story with a denunciation of one journalist, one associate professor and one professor as a denunciation in the best traditions of Lysenkovshchina," Medinsky told reporters, answering a question about his scientific work.
As if this was not enough, the Minister of Culture gave the public an additional reason for fun , calling people who question the myth of 28 Panfilovites, "finished scum."
My deepest belief that to write off doctoral dissertations is bad. And the people who do this are over -time. pic.twitter.com/0NCT5RMRQF
- Knitted tweeter (@twitted_knitter) October 4, 2016
According to the Unrequesters of Medinsky, the Gosarchiv and the Main Military Prosecutor's Office are “scrambled by the ended” https://t.co/ilbiepnda6
- Sergey aleksashenko (@saleksashyenko) October 4, 2016
Vladimir Medinsky lives in the illusory world of cinema. Even his "Complete scum" is actually just a translation of "inglorious bastards." Just 😹
- Alexey Venediktov (@aavst) October 5, 2016
“You are in kind, scum finished, bl ..., s ... and, wolves shameful,” explained the Minister of Culture https://t.co/wgozlxsl9j
- Vladislav Naganov (@naganoff_ru) October 4, 2016
"Even if Santa Claus does not exist and all this is fiction, people who do not believe in Santa Claus - scum finished!" (V. Medinsky)
- Fifth column (@5th_kolonna) October 4, 2016
According to Medinsky, such a phrase is attributed to Medinsky: "The fact that Panfilov heroes are fictional characters - does not detract from their feat."
This is too cool to be true. Someone, give me a link to the source. Please!
UPD. Really said, although not quite like this:
““ There were 28, 30, 38, even 48 - out of 130 - we do not know. And no one knows and will never know. And this does not make sense to find out. Therefore, their feat is symbolic and is in the same series of feats as 300 Spartans, ”Medinsky told reporters.
“My deepest belief is that even if this story was invented from beginning to end, even if there weren’t Panfilov, even if there was nothing, this is a holy legend that you just could not touch,” the minister said. ”
In this sense, he is a consistent person who, in his dissertation, proposed to revise the facts of history from the point of view of the tasks of the state.
"The first question that historical science should honestly answer is how much this or that event or private act meets the interests of the country and the people." The head of the laundry.
"My deepest conviction is that even if this story was invented from beginning to end, even if there were no Panfilov, even if there was nothing - this is a holy legend that you simply could not touch."
And who now dares to doubt that this person is a doctor of historical sciences?
Why not say simply: yes, 28 Panfilovs are fiction and legend, and so we made a feature film according to this legend, which, by definition, is artistic fiction, but we devote it to those real people who stood, fought and died near Moscow against the world's most powerful army at that time. If you are interested in historical facts in details - read historical, documentary books, scientific works, as normal people who seek knowledge usually do.
That's all, and write in the credits of the picture.
But the matter is different: any reason from abortion to Boeing forces these developed, cheeky people to show two unbridled instincts-to lies and violence, they already do not even see the subject of consideration in their broken eyepieces, but just in case, the “lies” and “violence”, if only they, so that they work in the very country today. And what will happen tomorrow - at least the grass does not grow.
You are all overdid scum here
And three hundred twenty eight (oh!)
Spartans using special communications
Saved by my dissert near Moscow
It is necessary to use in family quarrels: "The scum are over, as our Minister of Culture says."
Medinsky is definitely one of the avatars of Sasha Baron Cohen. There will be more than Borat. And his dissertation, of course, will need to be turned into Redimide Roman.
So he also wants to translate his dissert into the status of the Holy Legend.
The Minister of Culture of the Russian Federation Medinsky called those who deny the myth of 28 Panfilovites: "This is a holy legend that cannot be touched."
There is a myth, like a Medinsky historian. It’s better not to touch him, you won’t wash off.
The meeting of the dissertation council did not eventually take place: the minister asked him to transfer. Many commentators saw in this a way to drag out the matter so that the audience would lose interest in him, and under the noise - to find and use levers of pressure to the Ural Federal University:
Bad news: Medinsky could not bend UrFU, but was able to win two more months for hardware struggle to bend or bite.
- Leonid Volkov (@leonidvolkov) October 4, 2016
Medinsky asked to postpone the meeting on his dissertation for two months.
Either the donkey will die, or the padishah.
Well, nothing, but for two more months they will tell us about the fact that everyone has typos, you never have it, confused the "Christian" with the "Orthodox", and the pope of Pius with Erasmus of the Rotterdam, with whom it does not happen, but you put on the patriot, liberals.
Again, Shargunov will write something and what to do deputy requests about.
As a result, the precedent will not take place, of course, and the author of the book “villains and geniuses PR. From Rurik to Ivan III Terrible” will continue to be considered a historian.
Because the main thing is not to hand over your own. Even if he confuses the Orthodox with Christian in a dissertation and believes that the Protestants pigs their hymns in Latin. These are typical typos, they all do them.
The main thing is that he is a patriot and does not allow to denigrate Russia.
Well, about today's decision to postpone the consideration of the appeal on the deprivation of the scientific degree of Medinsky.
The meaning of the transfer is very clear and primitive: to knock down a wave of public interest. In recent years, such a fortel has been made in recent years with different “resonant” ships: by the appointed day, people will discuss a loud business, notify each other, read many all kinds of publications, gather a crowd near the court building. And there - clap - transfer. Two months later, everyone was tired, disappointed, missed, and in general everyone was tired. The member of the layman is short. If one transfer does not help, you can move it twice. They are in no hurry ...
<...> Because they were very scared. Country-not to fight off. Everything is obvious. So they will fraud.
Sorry, not about the meeting.
I read a wonderful story on Wikipedia today. In the defense of Medinsky in 2011, one of the official opponents was Professor V.M. Lavrov. A little later, he spoke about his work as follows: “Medinsky is the author with a paradoxical, not indisputable, but always curious look. We perfectly understand that history is a subjective thing. The main thing for me is that it is saturated with love for the homeland.” ( http://polit.ru/article/2012/03/16/za_medinskogo/ )
And among the recent defenders of Medinsky, Professor of Moscow State University S.F. Chernyakhovsky - see his column in the "look", http://m.vz.ru/opinions/2016/9/28/835048.html . He even arrived at today's meeting and told reporters that he considers the dissertation to be quite scientific “within the framework of a multicolor opinion” (sic!).
So, it turns out that three years ago, as a result of one small discrepancy in opinions, Professor Chernyakhovsky broke his nose to Professor Lavrov on the air of the Radio "Says Moscow" ...
https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/lavrov._vladimir_mikhailovich
This story has no morality - it's just beautiful.
Vladimir Medinsky also has many defenders; A jellyfish publishes a squeeze from their arguments. Another argument that did not enter the selection is “attacked simply because it is Medinsky”:
<...> We attacked Medinsky for a blunder in the dissert (and you have no blunders? We will check? How does the quality of the official characterize his dissert? Who should the Minister of Culture be an official or a scientist? Why do the disserts defend us at all? What problems do we have with the academic language of humanitarian disciplines? - There are many questions, but when does the command sound up to top there are no questions) - so the sailors are not asked) Here, they attacked Medinsky, of course, only because he is Medinsky; The dissertation of Gref-Kokha-Kudrin will not look with a magnifying glass. The dissertations about good Vlasov applauded without reading. The dissertations about a hundred and one hundred and fifty million repressed under Stalin are protected by packs. Entire scientific schools exist on Western grants solely to tell that Russians are not quite people or even not people at all, and in the history of Russia there was never anything but horror, blood and evil, unlike the democratic, bright and humanistic history of the West, and nothing. We seem to not notice anything of this - not our business! - But Medinsky for one blunder we will spend, eat and do not leave a bone. And at the same time, anyone who dares to stand up for him. The most nasty thing is that good people who did not have time to think are nailed to this jackalie, but just an excess of universal hunting called them along. It’s vile like, my God, how disgusting.
If you reformulate this argument in the spirit of the Minister of Culture himself, apparently something will turn out something like that:
Medinsky normal kid, what you jump on him, I am a candidate of sciences, and you are finally who are you in the area who you know?
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