"We are fighting evil"

For the first time, the first time, the governor of Andrei Turchak was the first time from the rostrum of the Pskov Regional Assembly that he was an attack by journalist Oleg Kashin. Until now, politicians, officials and loyal media in Pskov in any way bypassed this topic. Openly commented on the "Kashin case" only the famous oppositionist Lev Schlosberg. Now the leader of the Pskov branch of "Fair Russia" Oleg Bryachak spoke about the connection of the "case" and Andrei Turchak.

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Oleg Bryachak, born in 1980 - System politician and businessman. The post of head of the Pskov regional branch of the Just Russia party and the place in the Pskov Regional Assembly of Deputies went to him, one might say, "by inheritance." His father, Mikhail Bryachak, who headed Rostek-Terminal CJSC, actively participated in politics since the 90s, nominated for State Duma deputies several times in a single-mandate district, but each time lost to a candidate from the Party of Power. In 2007, Mikhail Bryachak went to the regional meeting, and in 2011 finally received the mandate of the State Duma, where he took the post of deputy chairman of the transport committee. In the same 2011, Oleg Bryachak became a deputy of the regional parliament.

In 2014, after the accession of Crimea, Mikhail Bryachak was delegated by the party to create a party cell in Sevastopol. Oleg Bryachak headed the Pskov regional branch of "Just Russia".

Despite periodic conflicts, the Bryachakov family was nevertheless considered a political ally of the authorities, including Governor Andrei Turchak. This was evidenced by the support that the authorities provided for their business, for example, to the project to create the customs and logistics complex "Ubylinsky" in 2011-12. (which completely failed) or the development plans of the city stadium "Electron" in 2014-15. A sharp deterioration in relations occurred during the 2016 parliamentary elections, where the Socialist -Revolutionaries came out with the slogan "It's time to change power!".

The election "Fair Russia" in the Pskov region lost. At the third meeting of the regional meeting of the sixth convocation, Oleg Bryachak actually declared war on the Pskov governor. Among other sins of Andrei Turchak, in the presence of journalists, he also mentioned the “Kashin case”. About what prompted him to such sharp statements, Oleg Bryachak told in an interview with Radio Liberty:

- The reason was the general situation in the Pskov region. The bad, let’s say, the situation that has developed through the fault of the person who is in the position of the governor, due to the fault of Andrei Turchak. By the fault of a person who cannot normally lead our area, as a result of which ordinary people suffer. In addition, scandals are constantly accompanied by this governor. Suppose, one hundred percent good business, doomed to success, such as the restoration of the world famous monument of Izborsk, they managed to turn into an all -Russian corruption scandal. In the course of consideration of the criminal case on the theft of state funds in Izborsk, senior officials and businessmen have already been detained, they are in prison. And Turchak continues to valiantly lead the region.

Is it possible to beat journalists? It seems to me that you can’t beat anyone at all

The well -known business Kashin. Kashin openly, officially called the customer of the crime of Turchak. Moreover, the performer, the one who directly tried to kill the journalist called the customer. Specifically named: Andrey Turchak, the governor of the Pskov region.

More recently, the new leader of the State Duma said this: everyone is equal before the law. Repeatedly this was said by the president: we should not be untouchable, everyone is equal before the law. So why does this young man lead the region, and not in prison? Why is it not interrogated? Why don't people know about it? Is it possible to beat journalists? It seems to me that you can’t beat anyone at all.

- Oleg Mikhailovich, literally a year ago, when information appeared that Andrei Turchak was called the customer of the attack on Oleg Kashin, we called the Pskov politicians to get comments. And then you said that you do not believe that this is generally possible.

I could not restrain myself several times, I already started such a loud controversy with the deputies, because five anti -people's laws were adopted

-Yes, yes, I agree with you completely, it was. But at that time there were no confession of the performers. And when the performers already called the name of the customer, it is simply impossible not to believe in it. Now I believe that Turchak was capable of such things. Well, the most basic and destructive for our region: Turchak, having come to the Pskov region in 2009, received a budget without a debt load. The past governors somehow managed to leave the area with a surplus budget and without debts. In literally five years, Turchak managed to increase the loan load of the region by 75 times. And today the region pays only percent of about a billion rubles a year.

You see, at the session I was, to put it mildly, in shock. Several times I could not restrain myself, I already started such a loud controversy with the deputies, because they adopted five anti -people's laws. And each of these anti -people's laws concerned either the abolition of benefits or increasing taxes. Deprived of benefits of agricultural producers. Increased taxes for owners of shopping centers over 2000 squares. The transport tax was increased. I will release a separate newspaper about this. Everyone Pskovich should know this.

- Oleg Mikhailovich, but before Fair Russia was not seen in such a sharp opposition rhetoric, according to fundamental moments you have always agreed with United Russia ...

- I do not quite agree with you here, because in 2013 no other than I threw public hearings on the budget. This was in 2013, when the governor represented the budget for 2014, about 300 people were in the hall. I got up and said that this budget for the region is murderous. And he called on citizens who have not yet lost his conscience, to leave the hall. Then about a hundred people came out of the hall. And we systematically criticized, constructively criticized the policy of this governor.

Then at some point a dialogue occurred. Even when we were invited to discuss the budget, we got up and left. “We don’t believe you,” we said, “because you cannot show us how you will give this money. Who, firstly, allowed you to hang such loans to our area and how you will give it to. You do not answer these questions, but they are key because everything goes from money.” And at some point, Turchak and his finance deputy showed us that 3 billion 600 million rubles from the federal budget somehow replace them and now the debt repayment strategy begins. Okay, we think, if so ...

- But 2014, when there were governor elections, went peacefully and calmly for Andrei Turchak. There was no such harsh rhetoric on your part, although you also exhibited your candidacy.

- Yes, I exposed my candidacy. But in the elections, to be honest, I did not take part, because I did not have a financial opportunity at that time.

- Did you have a financial opportunity this year?

- And this year, yes, we found funds. Some of our candidates who joined us invested their own funds. And so we held a brighter campaign.

- And accordingly, along with the means, such a sharp confrontation appeared with Andrei Turchak?

- No, most likely, these are accumulated and unsolved problems.

- In 2015, when your relationship with Turchak was not so tense, one of your investment projects was even recognized by the strategic administration of the region. We are talking about the electron stadium.

- It was like that, yes.

- And Andrei Turchak supported you in this undertaking, although it did not cause understanding among the inhabitants of Pskov.

- I would not say that in the inhabitants of Pskov it did not cause understanding. Rather, it did not cause understanding among the Pskov developers who artificially form this opinion in a certain part of the architects, if they can be called architects. After all, you see, the question is very simple: either this will be next to the trash, what you see from the window, or it will be put in order. It is clear that due to state money no one will ever put this in order.

- Then you found an understanding of the administration on this score. How are things going now?

-Now, knowing the moral qualities of Andrei Turchak, despite all the usefulness of any project for our population, due to some of his personal motives, something may not work.

- That is, put the cross on the "electron"?

- No, I do not think that we put the cross on the "electron", I think that the cross will be placed on the Career of Turchak in the near future.

- Why do you think that you can defeat Turchak in this current confrontation with him?

“I don't think I can defeat him.” I think the people can defeat him. And my task is as a deputy, who, in my opinion, is now fighting with this Turchak, to make people learn the truth about what is happening in the region.

I would not even set it with a beer stall to lead it

There is a person who, thanks to the connections of his dad, occupied the chair of the governor of the whole region, received responsibility for fate, for people's lives. This man lost his task. We can state this absolutely accurately, on numbers, again, on the loss of our population, to reduce beds, on increasing credit load, and so on. They managed, thanks to their powerful powers, to form an obedient legislative body. A body that does not think, but simply serves the interests of this incompetent person.

If you want my opinion, I would not even put it to lead a beer stall. He does not have the skills of the leader, they have nowhere to come from. He did not go through a life school, he does not know what a problem is, what hunger, cold is, understand? He first played in cubes, then in the "Young Guard", now he plays with our population. So, during the time that he plays, minus 50 thousand people. 50 thousand people began to live less in the Pskov region. I will not put up with this.

Therefore, I consider it my task to inform our population about what is happening, collecting signatures for the resignation of Turchak. We will collect signatures, I think, in two months of ten thousand, we will collect. I personally went around every house in the city during the election campaign, I have not seen people satisfied with the policy of Turchak. Therefore, it is especially surprising to me how “United Russia” won everywhere. And we will send these signatures to the president.

- Are you afraid that such a sharp rhetoric will finally divorce bridges between you and Turchak? And that there will be no way back?

- I will tell you honestly and sincerely: I'm not going to build any bridges with this person. Once already built. Once already bought for the promises that they gave.

I will not bring bridges, I’m not going to look for a dialogue with this person, my task is to make sure that as soon as possible, until he finally destroys the Pskov region, our president removed Andrei Turchak from his post. This is my fundamental task.

The Pskov region is recognized as a beggar itself. And the wife of Turchak is one of the richest wives of governors in Russia

-Returning to the Kashin case: this is probably the most serious accusation that the governor has ever sounded. It is one thing - erroneous political decisions that he can motivate the intention to develop the region, and quite another is suspicion of organizing an attempt to kill. Doesn't it seem to you that the mention of this in a public space can be expensive for you?

“Do you think they will beat me too?”

- I think Andrei Turchak will no longer put up with you.

- Once again, I say, I do not see in front of myself in the form of Andrei Turchak a person who needs to be put up with. I do not treat him with respect. For six years of leadership, he showed that he was incompetent.

- Will you demand at least interrogate Turchak on this case?

- Certainly. Necessarily. And many citizens want this. Here Ulyukaev took, the triumph of a seemingly law enforcement system. And Turchak is free, Turchak sets an example. The border region, here we need to revive patriotism somehow. After all, it is we, if that, we will beat the first blow, we live on the border. What is this person do?

Officially, the Pskov region is recognized as a beggar itself. And the wife of Turchak is one of the richest wives of governors in Russia. And for some reason, they constantly find some assets. Putin forbade officials to own real estate abroad, they found a house at Turchak. As soon as they found it, patriotically declares: yes, yes, I forgot, I will sell. It was forbidden to have an account abroad from the 13th year of the year 13. At the 15th year, Offshorka is found at Turbchak, who is absolutely owned by his wife. Does he not respect ours? Probably yes. Or does he consider himself untouchable? It can also be. But he is not untouchable, believe me.

We have a very serious plan. We do not just arrange rallies here in the city and collect signatures. We will have a system work. And believe me, in three or four months there will be results, maybe earlier. We have the opportunity to directly, through Mironov, directly to the president on the table, put the signatures that we collect with accompanying letters. We will inform not only our president. There are also other officials on whom we have a way out.

Yesterday I arrived in the envoy. He saw a picket that citizens staged before entering the administration. The slogans were vital: "Do not bother to live, Turchak!" People ask about this. And he sits in his chair soft and teaches everyone’s life.

- Oleg Mikhailovich, do you apologize, have resources for such a job? We know that your customs business is bankrupt, there are 350 million rubles of debt to the bailiffs - how are you going to conduct and organize such a large -scale case?

- I think that we will rely on the truth, we will rely on citizens. I do not think that some superprete will demand what we will do. We have activists in the party who work as volunteers who see what is happening in the region, who want to change the Turchak to some strong leader, smart. And they will collect signatures for free. No, I don't think this is somehow completely costly. And most importantly, this is sincere. This is completely sincere. We are fighting evil.

- Who are your allies?

- Opposition parties are our allies. A complete understanding with the Communist Party, and with the "apple", and with the LDPR with us. Therefore, I believe that the opposition parties and those public organizations that do not depend on the regional administration and have the strength to fight in themselves - these are also our allies.

-And you are not afraid that you are not very legally, like Lev Schlosberg last year, they will simply be out of the regional assembly?

-I'm not at all afraid, but I assume that it will be so after some time. They have such a plan. Not just they wrote me a letter to apologize. They will initiate a criminal case for slander, as they believe, and accordingly they will somehow prove it. Given what our judicial system is in the field, I think it will not be difficult for them, and accordingly, I will be deprived of the deputy mandate.

- And tell us what the letter was?

- The essence of this letter is as follows. During the pre -election campaign in one of the newspapers, articles were published, which, in their opinion, are defamed with the honor of the regional administration and governor Andrei Turchak. Yesterday, from the rostrum, I said that this has nothing to do with the administration, but is related to the Turchak. Such, for example, the names of the articles: "Turchak called the customer of the attack." Well, they called, really, they called it. When Tourchak was called a bad word, he ran to his dad, dad gave thugs from the Leninets factory, and these thugs beat a journalist. And they testified that the customer is Turchak. It was written in the newspaper.

- In your election newspaper?

-Well, in some of the newspapers, I no longer remember how many I had them. "Instead of a triumph - a corruption scandal and a criminal case" is what I told you about Izborsk. And there was something else.

- That is, they were ready to accept from you and forget about it?

- Yes, they offered me publicly to apologize, then they may not go to court. But let them go where they want, I do not intend to apologize.

- Now you are waiting for ships?

- I - yes, now I'm waiting for ships. I suppose that, perhaps, after some time I will be deprived of the deputy mandate. But maybe the Turchak will be removed from the post faster, let's see.

- Are you ready for such a role as a fighter for justice, oppositionist? This is a certain image, expectations that will be assigned to you.

- I agree with you. Well, depending on the situation. For example, being a sensible person who wishes her country success and prosperity ... I was born here and is not going to go anywhere. I do not want to speak loud words, but I love my country.

When the crisis occurred, there was a tense relationship, I said: yes, the administration has disadvantages and very serious, but it would not be entirely correct to use the crisis as an occasion for criticism, it will be non -constructive. I will not do this, so I said one day from the rostrum. Наоборот, чем могу, чем может "Справедливая Россия", мы будем помогать администрации, но только в том русле, что будет полезно нашим гражданам.

Я готов быть борцом с Турчаком, борцом с негативными проявлениями со стороны областной администрации для нашей области

But this did not work. Законы принимать не получилось. Мы транспортный налог два раза хотели отменить – не получилось. Статус детей войны хотели придать – не получилось. Пособия увеличить с унизительных 200 рублей матерям-одиночкам – нет. Там невозможен диалог. Там есть только одно мнение. Одно мнение молодого некомпетентного человека, который считает, что он прав. И вот шесть лет считает, что он прав, результаты мы видим: озлобленное население, серость, грязь.

– Это скорее был вопрос о вашем политическом будущем. Не боитесь ли вы перестать быть системным политиком?

– Я, наверное, все-таки системным политиком буду, потому что моя критика не носит оголтелый характер. Каждое заявление, которое я делаю, подкреплено цифрами, фактами. Это конструктивная критика.

– То есть вы рассчитываете бороться с Турчаком в рамках существующей системы?

– Конечно, однозначно, и в рамках закона. Если придет другой губернатор, мне сложно будет первое время, нужно будет посмотреть, как будет руководить этот губернатор. Но сейчас да, я готов быть борцом с Турчаком, борцом с негативными проявлениями со стороны областной администрации для нашей области.

– Фактически вы собираетесь переманить на свою сторону федеральный силовой ресурс и политический ресурс, с тем чтобы одолеть Андрея Турчака в этом противостоянии?

– Это, наверное, сделать невозможно. А частично, наверное, так будет. Потому что и на федеральном уровне не все считают, что Андрей Турчак – компетентный руководитель. Not all.

– А кто ваш союзник в Москве?

– Пока, если позволите, я воздержусь. Иначе могут быть поставлены, сами понимаете, препоны.

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  Svetlana Prokopyeva

  Pskov journalist, editor and author of the regional site Radio Liberty Sever. Reali