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Medinsky and hell
The film "28 Panfilov" was released in a wide rental in Russian cinemas.
He seems to have no problems with cash fees.
Apparently, the box office "28 Panfilovites" today will amount to 150 million rubles. The budget of the film is completely repelled in the first week
- Armen Gasparyan (@a_gasparyan) November 27, 2016
Opinions about the tape itself vary.
We watched "28 Panfilovtsy" .. This is our film, this is our people, this is our story .. to go and watch .. Pic.twitter.com/4ujuxjljyh
- Golubev Sergey .. ☭ (@sfgo76) November 26, 2016
I looked at "28 Panfilovtsev." And I recommend you. Take the children-schoolboy with you.
- Kulikov Dmitry (@dmitrykulikov) November 26, 2016
I want the film "28 Panfilov" to earn a lot of money, so that all sorts of producers and realties understand what films our people want to see ..
- Golubev Sergey .. ☭ (@sfgo76) November 27, 2016
We watched "28 Panfilovites." Under great impression. A completely new movie language, calm and at the same time piercing. So they have not yet been shot about the war. If you need to understand how the Fritzes were stopped near Moscow - like this. Yes, a legend, but they stopped just like that!
It turned out without a strong ideological strain, show a picture of the war similar to the Great Patriotic War. Regarding the ideological part, the film emphasized from the traditional anti -Soviet cranberries of Russian cinema - there are no freaks -commanders, there are no Majors of the NKVD, rushing along the rear in search of new victims, there are no post -aisles of the machine guns in anticipation of the opportunity to shoot their unarmed soldiers with one cuttings for ten, there were no tenfolds, there are no ten the mind of the German machine gunners of the tired of killing the waves of the Bolsheviks, there are no saints of mines and divine spiders, there are no Germans who want to be loved, there are no dull and monotonous "love lines", there are no "general" repressed intellectuals, who escaped from Gulag to teach the bad Red Army, there are no priests, without the blessing of the Red Army. Could the Germans could not defeat, there is no Stalin sending crowds with cuttings to storm the citadel. In the film, of course, there are a couple of small moments that were cut during the viewing, but in general they do not spoil the general favorable impression, especially in comparison with the "weary sun" or "Stalingrad".
There is a fairly detailed demonstration of the routine of war, which looks like a feat for an ordinary person, and for soldiers of 1941, this is a multi -month reality, since it was through such daily and weekly exploits, they also stuck German blitzkrieg, and then drove the Germans from Moscow. To the anniversary of the counterattack of the Red Army near Moscow, it was quite worthy. The people who fight and die are shown. And concrete monuments in which they disappeared by going into eternity, this is our memory of them. In my opinion, the most powerful visual find of the film is also connected in my opinion, when the surviving fighters stand against the background of sunset and gradually turn into a well -known monument, establishing a connection between the past and the present.
And what did we do in the end? From a technical point of view, the film is very good - the authors with a margin wiped their nose Mikhalkov, who, with which, as a larger budget, took an absolute squalor on a similar topic. This is to the question of the effectiveness of expenditure of funds. At the same time, in terms of quality of the picture, the film with a margin was ahead of the “Brest Fortress” and “Battle for Sevastopol”, only the previously indicated lack of funds did not allow creating an even more impressive audiovisual canvas, since it can easily imagine that with additional costs, the picture could be closer to the quality of works as “Pacific Front” or “Brothers in Weapons”. As "28 Panfilov" show, we can also very high quality remove the "rivet" part.
As for the content, the authors competently approached the question of combining real facts with post -war heroization, as a result of which the film does not look like something far -fetched and deceitful - the heroes in it are alive, the war is not false.
As the woodpeckers of information agencies tell us, the 28 Panfilov film is good at movies and will collect, apparently millions of one hundred and thirty, that is, more than its budget. What else is worth noting - the majority of those who watched praises.
In this regard, I would like to say that I personally understand those who scold this film as a work of cinema. This is really a picture-screening and a picture-a citizenship to a greater extent than a picture-epic story.
And no, I do not think that everyone who did not like - fools or scum. They simply would like, probably, Epica and Story, and they had few civil offers and naturalism of trenches. And they did not accept the genre offered.
I will say more. Know how to make a movie and make me, for example, this film - I myself would probably insert everything into it that the creators of the Panfilovites completely deliberately abandoned. That is, individual human portraits, a female image, and digital special effects, and all that.
But I also understand why the creators abandoned all this.
And now it can already be stated that their stubborn desire to do in their own way was understood: I found the result of his viewer.
I would say that this is a normal outcome and you can invest combat matrunists back into the scabbard.
"28 Panfilov" is a good attempt to make exclusively a military cinema without a dilemma of "bad -good" and pronounced love line. But this film is completely spoiled by an artificially imposed ostentatious cheers-patriotism, where, during the break between battles and harsh male military work (well reflected in the film, by the way), the political instructor suddenly appears and begins to talk about high matters, the moral principles of patriotism and willingness to die for the homeland (it is necessary to emphasize). Well, the political instructor, albeit a caricature character, but when the soldiers themselves begin to talk about the "feat of the people for centuries" and the role of the Communist Party in these processes, this is no longer too much, but a deliberate damage to the film. People were just crushed by tanks, fired at artillery, and then they stood in full height and seriously reason about ... their heroism and memory for centuries (!). These ideological, based on the myth, the inserts should seem to convince the viewer that this is really a feat. Although on the screen we simply see a set of actors and ordinary male military work, which did all. You still have a feeling of emptiness and everyday life of what you saw, in 1941 fought a lot and everywhere, not only under Dubosekovo. But the scriptwriters literally make you repeat the dogma that this is the "feat". "Do not believe what you see? Then you don’t sing, you’ll sing? Are you a traitor!" Well, or as the Minister of Culture of the Russian Federation V. Medinsky said there - “finished scum” those who do not believe in the “holy legend ...”
I once watched a sufficient number of documentaries about the war in order to be touched by her "true" copying on the screen.
I think that no one else will say anything more about the Second World War, or rather, will not add to what is said by films of the 50-80s. Only a certain number of patriotic shooting films await us ahead, and after they all come to nausea, the theme of the Second World War in Russian cinema will be practically closed.
And why does Medinsky so violently scare away the audience from the film "28 Panfilovites"? The film is normal, and this scream will disperse everyone.
Vladimir Medinsky really acts with a rather aggressive PR. The Russian newspaper tells about his new statement:
The biographies of the heroes of the Great Patriotic War, such as Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya and 28 Panfilov, are worthy of special relations. The Minister of Culture of the Russian Federation Vladimir Medinsky proposed treating them as the lives of saints.
According to him, Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya and Panfilov heroes are saints. “Like hundreds and thousands of our ancestors, who gave their lives and have accepted terrible death for our lives. It is possible to treat their lives only as the lives of saints,” the head of the Ministry of Culture said during memorable events dedicated to the 75th anniversary of the execution of Cosmodemyanskaya by the Germans.
Vladimir Medinsky explained that those who question the feat of these people are trying to “find some inaccuracies under the magnifying glass”, for example, how exactly there were Panfilov 28 or 38, in reality are not very different from the policeman who passed the Cosmodemyan fascists.
"The Germans of 30 srebreniki saved, as you know, they awarded him a bottle of moonshine for this. Yes, he burns in hell! How will those who cast doubt on, digging and trying to refute the feat of our ancestors," he concluded.
And Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya is 29, a secret panfilovets? Or is it from another fairy tale?
- The grandson of the underground (@shlomosledopit) November 27, 2016
What disgrace is Medinsky, in every family someone fought, a bunch of real feats, and he saves the exposed fiction https://t.co/wldrxgqsvz
- George Alburov (@alburov) November 26, 2016
> Medinsky said that those who doubt in Panfilovs should burn in hell in common between hell and 28 Panfilovites? They do not exist.
- Dvach (@ru2ch) November 26, 2016
Tell Medinsky that if the Panfilovs existed, then they would also burn at hell as atheists and communists if it existed
- 💔🔁🐽 (@raclepigfuntik) November 27, 2016
Calm off someone Medinsky, otherwise he will highlight a couple of hundred million to the film in hysteria about how Stalin stood on the platform in the fall of 1941.
- La Russie Parle (@russia_calls) November 26, 2016
We will also see the canonization of the heroes-heroes and the cathedral of all the Holy Komsomol members Pic.twitter.com/jlxle5tzj2
-Rogozin-on-Orbit (@lyapunovs) November 27, 2016
The fact that the story about "28 Panfilovtsy" is a lie, a scientifically established fact. Even the Stalinist investigators established this in 1948 and even received sincere recognition in the lies of the very writer of this lies.
It is especially cool that one of these “28 fallen heroes” turned out to be a very living German policeman and instead of the hero’s star received a prison term for treason.
Now Medinsky equated this lies to the lives of the saints.
This is blasphemy!
This is an insult to the feelings of believers!
Where does the patriarchy look?
I don’t understand, well, why is Putin holding this moron in the posts of the Minister of Culture? He has already disgraced all the scientific Putinism.
Everything, the lives of Lataby went
I am embarrassed to ask, and 300 Spartans are also saints?
And 26 Baku commissars?
That he is all around the bush, by golly ... When, finally, we will hear from Medinsky about the main thing? How to relate to Putin? How is the noble or equal apostal? This is archiving! ..
“We lack the corresponding objects of the show. Maybe we are not enough for us about Zoe Kosmodemyanskaya. We have to“ save the ordinary Ryan ”there, but no one is trying to save the Kosmodemyanskaya intelligence officer. You can tell a story worthy of the chamber of Mel Gibson,” - Minister Medinsky Medinsky Minister
Someone tell the minister that the film “Save the Private Rain” did not make Mel Gibson at all ... Perhaps he didn’t even see him ... and in general, why is Gibson, when there is already Hollywood stars with Russian passports? And here's another thing to report to Medinsky - Kosmodemyanskaya should not be saved ... I would like, of course, but nothing ...
Since the whole discussion about the feat of the 28 Panfilovites turned out to be part of the promotion of the blockbuster "28 Panfilov", it is still necessary to clarify whether anyone is finishing the filming of the film or the series about the "executioners of the NKVD"-and it is insulting to get involved in the promotional statement "on Durka".
Interesting, and in the history of the life of Zoe Cosmodemyanskaya according to Medinsky, the patriotic sensei will be decided to direct the children who had barely reached the age of the houses of Russian peasants who were in the occupied territory?
And how in this story the episode of the location of Zoe will be reflected as a teenager in a psychiatric hospital (together, by the way, with the creator of "new Soviet patriotism for children" Arkady Gaidar)?
And how will the bright image of the commander of the sabotage detachment, which included Zoya, Chekist Krainov, who abandoned his subordinates alone, and returned through the front line to his own?
And what in this story to make the victims of the “feat” of Zoe, the Russian peasants Karelova, Smirnova and Solntsev, whose houses she burned, leaving them to die in winter, in a forty -degree frost, without a roof over her head? They rejoice or cry?
Purely interesting. From absolutely scientific curiosity.
We will not be about Panfilovites - they simply did not exist. But Zoya was, and she really died with a martyrdom ... The circumstances of her death are well known: Zoya handed over the peasants of Sviridov to the Germans after he caught her at the moment when she set fire to his house. Before that, she burned several houses in the village, therefore, when she was hung, the inhabitants of Petrishchev spilled into her and doused with slopes of pots. The peasant Smirnova hit her with a stick in her legs, shouting: “To whom did you harm? My house burned, and did nothing to the Germans ... ”For this, having knocked out the Germans, our Smirnov and Sviridov were shot, declaring the policemen (which they were not).
Cosmodemyanskaya - priestly surname. The grandfather of Zoe Kosmodemyanskaya - Peter Ioannovich - rector of the Znamenskaya Church in the village of Osinov Gai near Tambov, was captured by the Bolsheviks on the night of August 27, 1918, he was cruelly tortured and finally drowned in the pond. His only fault was his faith. In 1929, Zoe's father, Anatoly Petrovich, a rural teacher - spoke out against collectivization and miraculously escaped the fate of Peter Ioannovich: he was warned of arrest and, as they say, naked and bosy, grabbing his family, fled to Siberia, where he managed to get lost. Soon he died. All these events made a difficult impression on the girl, and in the ninth grade she was diagnosed with mental abnormalities.
The tragic fate of this family is really worthy of being told about it in history textbooks. About this chain of events, each of which was connected in one way or another with the previous ones. This is the case for real historians. And let the Stalinist Medinsky think more about Ada.
What I would like to say ... For a long time, the “satellite and pogrom” site wrote about the cult of the Great Victory, rightly indicating that the honor of Vova has long passed the rational line of civilian patriotism and more and more resembles such a normal religious cult in everything, starting from rhetoric and ending with new sacred rituals. We wrote that under the Soviet regime, the funniest one was not there, because for the USSR, victory in the Second World War symbolized only the fidelity of the ideas of communism, served as an additional confirmation, while in the Russian Federation, which refused communist ideology and did not find anything in return (the construction of the “Russians” brilliantly failed, and the CPEs also did not really set up and the CPE. Witnesses), Vova became a central myth and generally the only meaning of existence. What does the Russian Federation do? The Russian Federation protects the feat of grandfathers in the Second World War from the dirty attacks of the West. What else does the Russian Federation do? Yes, in general, nothing.
In response to our comments, indignant citizens came to the comments and said that we are unfinished fascists and the Vlasovites who prevent people from simply rejoice at the feat of their ancestors, and there is no great worship of a great victory, but there is only just a celebration of the Society, and everything seems to us. And then, finally, we reached the point that the Minister of Culture (!!!) speaks of the characters of the Great Language of a religious preacher and, naturally, promises celestial punishments to all that dare to challenge the state myth (actually unauthorized by the Church, the reckoning of the saints is called heresy, and the citizens engaged in such things are heresiars. The Yeresiarh Medinsky is Orthodox, and not from any other, more interesting denomination).
That is, our concept of celebration of the Great Victory as a newly religious cult was just brilliantly confirmed from the mouth, and therefore we call all the readers who have written nasty things to us all these years, come to our site and apologize in the comments. No, relatives, it’s not us-“unfinished fascists and Vlasovites”, these are you-stupid inhabitants who do not understand anything in cultural and social processes that unfolded in the Russian Federation.
Another plot of this weekend, and also "Memory of the War."
In the television show "Ice Age", Tatyana Navka performed a dance with her partner in costumes of prisoners of concentration camp.
Navka showed everyone how the prisoners in fascist concentration camps had fun. And who does not agree with this is the falsifier of history. pic.twitter.com/zcy1jqnkfb
- Vague Rights (@Durevestnik) November 27, 2016
The wife of the press secretary of Putin Dmitry Peskov, Tatyana Navka rolled the mandatory program of the Kremlin: a pinch of racism, a little anti-Semitism. pic.twitter.com/kdqhgcdum0
- Taras berezovets (@tarasberzovets) November 28, 2016
Young people who looked at the icy show of the wife of Peskov Navka about the Holocaust now thinks: but it was fun there Jews
- Sasha_Sever (@aleks_SPB) November 27, 2016
If Navka had not drooped on the bones of the victims of the Holocaust, NATO tanks would ride on ice in Moscow!
- Revolutionary thoughts (@vvp2_0) November 28, 2016
On the 1st already very bad with the brains ...
They would try about Zoya Cosmodemyanskaya and 28 Panfilovtsy)
And I like it (otherwise someone is outraged in the tape).
By the way, the name “Dancing with the Stars”, which I could not understand, was finally justified - for I did not know anyone in the list and did not understand what kind of “stars”.
Шоу вызвало изрядный скандал (кажется, даже международный), хотя потом выяснилось - танец был сделан по мотивам фильма "Жизнь прекрасна".
Опять телевизор обидел нашу "интеллигенцию". Фидель забыт, всех тошнит вишневыми косточками от выступления Навки и Бурковского на Первом.
И, судя по реакции, наши рукопожатные фильм "Жизнь прекрасна" не смотрели от слова совсем. Потому что номер - точная калька картины. От музыки до главного героя (Бурковский удивительно точен, иногда кажется, что танцует не он, а именно герой Бениньи). Впрочем, Шахназаров все сказал.
Но нет, загавкали со страшной силой: ах, они оскорбили память, Холокост и вообще.
Идиоты.
Небольшая историческая справка по поводу темы Холокоста в фигурном катании (настоящем). "Список Шиндлера" вышел в 1993 г. Уже в 1994 этот фильм взяла за основу своего выступления легендарная Катарина Витт из Германии. Далее назову только несколько имён фигуристов, катавших тему "Списка Шиндлера":
- Ирина Слуцкая, Россия, 2000
- Каролина Костнер, Италия, 2003
- Елена Ильиных/Никита Кацалапов, Россия, 2009
- Алёна Савченко/Робин Шолковы, ФРГ, 2009
- брат/сестра Зарецкие, Израиль, 2010
- Юлия Липницкая, Россия, 2014
- Шарлен Гиньяр/Марко Фабри, Италия, 2016
А "Жизнь прекрасна" - это та же тема, но рассказанная иначе. В большом спорте мне этот сюжет не встречался, но совершенно точно сама по себе эта тема на льду не вызывает у тех, кто хоть чуть-чуть следит за фигурным катанием, ни отторжения, ни возмущения.
(флегматично)
Более гармонично было бы, если бы Навка откатала номер со стариком Навкой - и под Springtime.
А так - бедный Бениньи, не о том он мечтал.
Кому какое дело, что там в источнике Бениньи, это визуальное оскорбление, святотатство без каких-либо оправданий. По сути, это следствие бесстыдной мемориальной политики последних десяти лет, "мединизации" памяти, когда из истории было полностью вытравлено чувство трагедии и вины и заменено гламуром и пошлостью.
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Ivan Belyaev
Social Networks Editor Radio Liberty