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A clear secret conversation
Yesterday, a representative of the White House confirmed the media that at the Great Twenty Summit, Putin and Trump talked more than once, and twice : the second conversation took place at dinner, which was attended by only the heads of state (and their translators). At the end of the dinner, Trump himself moved to Putin, who was put next to Melania Trump, reports Reuters . Due to the fact that Trump’s translator does not speak Russian, the US president, in violation of the protocol, took advantage of the services of Putin’s translator, so the content of the conversation remains unknown that he pushes commentators to all kinds of speculation. Trump himself had already responded to the comments of the press in his inherent style: there was no secret conversation, according to him,.
Fake News Story of Secret Dinner with Putin is "Sick." All G 20 Leaders, and Spousses, Were Invited by the Chancellor of Germany. Press Knew!
- Donald J. Trump (@realdonaldtrump) July 19, 2017
The representative of the White House in the Reuters comment said that Putin’s “second meeting” with Trump was not talking - the conversation, according to him, was “short”. Meanwhile, the American political scientist Ian Bremmer reports that the conversation lasted about an hour.
Among the Russian commentators there are those who believe that the “secret conversation” can be in sight of the presidency’s Trump:
It turns out that in Hamburg, Trump with Putin had another meeting, secret. What they talked about is unknown. Trump, of course, will wait for impeachment at such a pace.
Inevitable impeachment, it seems
Other pitfalls see in the United States: according to political scientist Steven Sistanovich, the worst result of such a conversation may be that Trump will stop listening to the opinion of his advisers about Putin, because he will now decide that he himself has nowhere better.
Worst Result of a Meeting Like this: Now the President Thinks, "No Need to Listen to Others--I%27M The Putin Expert." https://t.co/ajbqznpevg
- Stephen Sestanovich (@ssestanovich) July 19, 2017
There are many in social networks and not quite serious assumptions.
According to the Hamburg account
I have to share the super-secret rumors spreading in the near-dysprematic circles of the capital of the North American states that in Hamburg during the final banquet of the G20 leaders, another, well, the completely informal meeting of our and their, which happened on the initiative of the last
It was like that, their at his table at some point was so bored that he got up and wandered towards our table, where, sitting down, he began to talk to ours. Moreover, oh, horror, only two were from our side, himself and his translator, and with their only one he.
Therefore, confusion and fear reigned where the cookies of the State Department were once baked - because no one in those parts knows what these two agreed about.
Since all this is recorded by me today in a clear mind and sober memory from the words of the current Washington attorney who arrived now and strangely coincided with the news of the state abolition of Ukraine who did not justify the hopes of Ukraine with her mother of the cities of Russians and the transfer of her maternal functions to the city of named after. Zakharchenko, I see in this a supernatal their red ambush.
Warned. Like, armed.
Neolgol
Trump is suspected of secretly, in the second, conversation with Putin at the past "twenty." In fact, everything was like that ...
The official dinner of the G20 next to the boring Shinzo Abe began to tire. Donald got up and decided to walk along the table, knead the joints. Passing by Putin, he tried to remember whether he was sorry for him today or not. I did not remember just in case, for the manifestation of politeness, I sat down on an empty chair nearby.
-Do you understand the translator in Russian? And then my only in American says, Trump asked.
“He understands, understands, sit down,” Putin answered.
-I'm a hand to you today, or we have not seen each other?
-Yes, pity, pity, we talked for 2 hours 16 minutes today
-It! But tell me, did you intervene with your hackers in our election campaign?
-Well, I got it already with his hackers-cheracers. Tell me, when you will return to me under Washington ...
The conversation slowly entered the usual direction.
It became known that during their last secret meeting, Vladimir Putin assigned Donald Trump his next military rank - KGB lieutenant colonel.
Why are you, like small children, are discussing that for an hour at the second "secret meeting during dinner" discussed Trump and Putin? See who enters dinner, except for leaders and translators.
Yeah, an officer with a "nuclear football" and an officer with the terminal "Cheget" of the Kazbek system.
They boasted there with suitcases, who has a “blow to the half -fly”, and who has “the whole world in dust” is better :)
Ekaterina Vinokurova calls not to give in paranoia:
Everyone will not like this post, but in recent weeks I read the American media about the next horrors about the Russian influence on the American elections, the terrible stories about how Trump's advisers met with Russians, Trump talked with Putin, perhaps not only at the official meeting and feel sadness. American media and American politicians infected our fever. That is, yes, ours definitely bit them.
I myself was at a reception in the Spaso-House once, but annually we are observing the same thing: invited to a reception on July 4 pass through a number of cameras, for which NTV employees are interrogated, how they dare to visit the American embassy. The visit of the American ambassador to the regions and a meeting with the governor - the governor was bought by the West. And if opposition politicians and social activists meet with American diplomats or even worse, American politicians - then everything, treason to the homeland.
And now the American establishment of itself, unfortunately, begins to behave exactly in the spirit of our guards. Soon a Western NOD will still appear, which will demand a revision of the constitution, since the Russians entered the whole world, backstage, all that.
And we can only guess that it would have begun in the United States if one of the politician there would have publicly launched us with a request to take a number of external measures to change the American domestic political situation.
I, as a liberal -thinking person, seem to me ridiculous on both sides. The more communication, the better. If some politician is in contact with politicians or diplomats of another country, there is nothing wrong with this basic. In the end, those politicians who offer more interesting and mainstream programs for an internal consumer, and not those for whose programs whose programs will joyfully vote, voters vote.
(By the way, with all the negative attitude to Navalny, I would like to see him with a registered candidate)
And in Telegram Putin, they recall yesterday’s story about how he ate ice cream at the Max air show and treated to surrender other officials.
It turns out in Hamburg D. Trump sat down to V. Putin during the dessert. Yes, men just ate ice cream.
Like yesterday.
We diverge, comrades.
The news about how the Russian president tried to buy ice cream, but got confused in bills, many quoted Vesti.ru in the interpretation of the publication :
“Putin asked the fashion girl:“ What is treated? ”She was a little embarrassed. But then she briefly listed what she trading. The president liked the Vologda filling in a glass. He paid a thousandth bill.
The seller began to look for change. However, Putin decided to treat everyone. “Give them for change,” he nodded towards the officials accompanying him. The head of Rostec, Sergei Chemezov at that moment, said: "We have a lot of people who wish."
Press Secretary of the President of the Russian Federation Dmitry Peskov and the head of the Ministry of Industry and Trade Denis Manturov chose a horn of Korenovka’s horn. The Minister of Transport Maxim Sokolov, like the president, preferred a fillir in a glass for 60 rubles.
“Check if enough,” Putin worried. The saleswoman admitted that she lost her account. Then Chemezov handed the girl a five -thousandth bill. "Do you have any profit this year, 80 billion? Can you afford to buy ice cream," the President of the Russian Federation joked. "
About how Putin bought ice cream, all federal media talked - apparently, in order to show that the president is also a person, although in fact this plot follows mainly that the president of Russia and ice cream for 20 rubles exist in non -reflecting universes.
The Russian air show MAKS-2017 has just begun, and the main deal has already taken place on it. Putin bought ice cream to his friends. pic.twitter.com/ae9ab56zqm
- Openeconomy (@openeconomynews) July 18, 2017
So that the children do not bother with the question "dad, but Putin really exists?", Yesterday they twisted the whole day on TV "Putin bought ice cream!" ...
- Nikolai Travkin (@nitravkin) July 19, 2017
What a terrible story about thousandth bills and ice cream.
“Our president-he, in my opinion, has not seen about five or ten money in the eyes. He does not even know what kind of money we have. ” V.S. Chernomyrdin about B.N. Yeltsin
What a humiliating story, as the president and "associates" buy ice cream for the minimum wage https://t.co/q8fsfftwp
- Tikhon Dzyadko (@tikhondzyadko) July 19, 2017
If we return to the relations of Russia and the USA, another news that is actively discussed today in social networks is the appointment of John Huntsman to the position of US ambassador to Russia, who is considered a supporter of the “hard line”.
John Huntsman-Ml, nominated by Trump to the post of US Ambassador in Moscow, was the co-chair of the 2008 presidential campaign headquarters.
- Alexey Venediktov (@aavst) July 19, 2017
So that it was clear who claims to the post of US ambassador to Russia and had already held several consultations on this subject with Trump's advisers.
This is John Huntsman, the head of the Atlantic Council, the American non -governmental analytical center, created back in 1961, which ensures the ideology of NATO development.
Last summer, this council released the report “Armament for deterrence: how Poland and NATO should resist reviving Russia.”
Some of the theses of the report:
- include Polish F-16 aircraft in NATO nuclear forces so that they can incur tactical nuclear weapons to Russia;
- threaten a deep blow to the Russian territory with the use of American cruise missiles of Jassm aircraft with a range of 370 km;
- apply special forces on Russian territory, such as the Kaliningrad region
Well, so on ...
This is all that you need to know about the candidate, because from this knowledge we can draw conclusions about the alleged policy of the possible ambassador of Trump.
Many commentators analyze the biography of the new ambassador.
Mormons play Mormons at Trump
Today I appointed a new US ambassador in Moscow. Or sent a new appointment? John Huntsman turned out to be a biography, read the article on RBC.
Mormons have communal work in respect. Guys generally should serve missionaries for a couple of years. After the service, Huntsman began his career in Reagan's apparatus. And the old man quickly liked it - he was entrusted with delivery of humans to Armenia after an earthquake.
I am still surprised by such stories about the States. In magazines such as Harvard, business roaring is praised by activism, volunteering, and communal work. This is immediately +10 to charisma and career prospects.
Among the Russians, only the Old Believers met such ideas about the beautiful. Which, in general, is better than nothing. Old Believers' ethics are no worse than Protestant, but its own.
What you need to know about the future after the United States in Russia John Huntsman:
1. Mormon. Moreover, he worked in a foreign mission in Taiwan;
2. He was the governor of the Mormon state of Utah;
3. Close to Mitt Romni, who never became president and state secretary. His distant relative and friend. And where Romny, there is the speaker of the House of Representatives Paul Ryan;
4. Specialist in the divided nations. Was the US Ambassador to Singapore and China;
5. Good positions not only within the republican, but also a democratic establishment. For example, he was an ambassador to China under Democrat Obama.
Summary: professional, flexible, with good support in Washington.
But most of all he wrote about Huntsman back in March, when his appointment was discussed, Konstantin Eggert :
So, about John Huntsman, the likely future of the US ambassador to Russia.
The main thing is that there were no such ambassadors in Moscow before. NEVER! John Huntsman for the Kremlin is an extremely uncomfortable character. Why?
1 - He is very rich. So independent and knows the price of cynicism. Without this last in Moscow, the world Mecca of Cynics, there is nothing to do at all.
2 - has great political experience and weight. Unless Averell Harriman compare with Huntsman in this sense. 90 percent of the previous heads of the US mission are career diplomats. Bob Straus (1991-1992) was not long and had no diplomatic experience. And Huntsman began his career in the far from the Kremlovita administration of Reagan. He was the governor and even chairman of the Association of Governors of the West of America. That is, he understands well what legitimacy is oriented in Washington policy.
3 - very important: Huntsman - Mormon with impeccable family life. He knows a hundred percent where the moral red lines run and will not cross them. I am not in the sense of intrigues, but in the sense of politics.
If they will break it from the White House (which is unlikely), then he will leave, the good is where (see paragraph 1).
Huntsman worked as a missionary in Taiwan. This is willpower and conviction. The Kremlin is not loved and afraid because you’ll do what you do with this.
4 - Huntsman - Chairman of the Atlantic Council. This is perhaps the best brain trust in Washington today. He is headed by his smartest Fred Kempe. In love for the Russian political regime, the fund is not seen. Among the constant employees of the Council are people such as Vice President Damon Wilson (engaged in Europe in the State Department at Bush Jr.) and a great friend of Kyiv, a former US Ambassador to Ukraine John Hearbst. The details about Atlantic Council can be told by his associate expert Ariel Cohen
5 - Twice Ambassador - in Singapore and in China. He speaks in Chinese, and very good. You won’t spend it on meakin, you won’t bribe a rough flattery, the threats also do not act (see clause 3). It can elegantly send (such, actually, respect us).
6 - Huntsman lived in Taiwan and loves him. They love him there too. Not only in sympathy for Taibay, but also about horror! - To Tibet. He is not Richard Gir, of course, but in Beijing and for less they can hate.
There are questions.
1 - supposedly business children in Russia. This will find out the Senate.
2 - all diplomats and experts who worked in China tend to compare and often (although not always) to equate the experience of Russia and China. And this experience is not much like, because the country is completely unlike. In Russia, it is impossible and has never been (even under Gorbachev) a "Chinese path" is possible. We just do not have enough Chinese in Russia for the Chinese path of development (joke!))) If Huntsman arrives with the conviction that Russia is China, such as "development without democracy" and all that (namely, our officials will prove to him), then it may be more malleable to other Kremlin explanations. Although I don't think.
Bottom line: Huntsman is a Renaissance man with a grip of a businessman of the startup era. Against its background, the class of the Russian political class becomes intolerantly clear, sorry for the pun. In Moscow, there are simply no people who could speak the same language with him - behind the absence of such people.
So far. All health and optimism.
Then, the candidacy of Huntsman Sergey Markov criticized:
USA. The possible appointment of a new ambassador to Russia John Huntsman was met in negatively in Moscow. Reasons in sight. Huntsman headed the Atlantic Council, one of the expert public centers, most configured anti -Russian. The Atlantic Council also actively supports the Russophobic repressive Kyiv regime. Huntsman criticized Obama because Obama allegedly underestimated the Russian threat to neighbors. That is, de fact, Huntsman supported the Russian environment policy with an aggressive ring of Russophobic regimes. Huntsman was an ambassador in China and was removed from there at the request of the Chinese government on suspicion that he had heated anti -government speeches.
However, Moscow hopes that Huntsman is a very professional diplomat, that after work in China, he understands that there is no need to climb into the internal affairs of countries such as Russia. Huntsman's father has a large business in Russia and therefore Huntsman understands Russia. And Russia wants Western diplomats to see reality, understand Russia and be guided not by ideological myths, but by the real interests of the two countries. But in principle, Moscow is rather disappointed with a possible purpose than delighted. This purpose strengthens the critical trend in Russia in the new administration. And hopes for improving relations with the United States in Russia are gradually melting.
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Alya Ponomareva
Social Networks Editor Radio Liberty