“It makes no sense to follow citizens”: the head of Moscow about passes, coincidences and budget

The head of the Moscow Information Technology Department (DIT) Eduard Lysenko gave a great interview to Vedomosti, where he assured that the city is not following the residents, but all evidence of the opposite - “coincidences”.

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About the coronavirus agenda

Lysenko said that from the beginning of the pandemic until mid -June, officials of the department worked "20 hours a day without days off." “For a very short period of time, we had to build almost everything from scratch: video conferences on our own platform, a new electronic document management model, passage system,“ social monitoring ”<...> this did not require any budget costs: they didn’t buy anything from anyone, the service center was taken to Open Source (software with open source code). "

About "social monitoring"

Lysenko called the program “Social Monitoring”, which monitored the observance of quarantine, “Absolute Light mode” and cited a Qatar as an example, in which he threatens three years in prison for going out into the street without a mask. To the journalist’s question about erroneous fines (for example, when a woman gets on a quarantine in the hospital), Lysenko said that in this case, citizens could calmly appeal the fine. “Objectively speaking, most people quite calmly use the application - the share of issues related to technology, we have less than 1%.”

About surveillance for residents of the city

The journalist Vedomosti asked Lysenko why some SMS from Dita Moscow immediately came to some of the border and obligated to follow the quarantine and the quarantine, when leaving the house. Lysenko replied that "the city does not follow the inhabitants, and certainly there is no sense in monitoring individual citizens." “When the board landed, representatives of Rospotrebnadzor came, everyone was questioned, then the SMS and distribution of SMS went on these questionnaires. Such a warning SMS could send, but nothing more. And the fact that she came precisely at the moment of leaving the house is a coincidence. ”

We talked about the Moscow system of smart cameras and how they could use it for surveillance.

On the safety of data

“As it should be according to the law“ On Personal Data ”, we will destroy it immediately after all judicial procedures related to the throughput system are completed. The regulators will then check it. ” At the same time, Lysenko confirmed that in the user agreement of the service checking service there really is a item on advertising - this applies to the work of the I.MOSCOW service. “For employers, there are different support measures for employers on the cluster portal, and for individuals - social advertising.”

About the budget

Lysenko said that even in the pandemia it is difficult to cut the budget for information technology. “We considered that we are about in the corridor, like all world capitals. This is usually from 1.5 to 2% of the budget (city. - The Bell). In accordance with the budget painting at the beginning of June, the budget of the department for the current year is 78.6 billion rubles. ”