This family, who has forced to leave Russia, plans his life for one day, no longer than

L. made the decision to leave Russia and implemented almost a day. Perhaps the last straw was the disconnection of the Echo of Moscow. She worked at this radio station in one of the largest Russian cities. And it was well known to local radio listeners. In tandem with a colleague, every weekday in the morning they went out on a live broadcast. They talked about relevant for the city and not only. In the top 5 radio stations, the local "echo" confidently leads. Almost 90 thousand people listened to him daily. And then what happened happened.

L. left her hometown with one backpack. He says that there was no strength to gather at all. She asks to reduce the names and not to call the city from which she left. Explains that it is not about her. He just answers not only for himself.

Departure

- As far as I know, you left very quickly. In addition to the overall background, something specific prompted?

- Yes, I personally left very quickly. See how it was: I have a husband, we have not lived together for a year and a half. But we care about our common daughter together. We are in excellent relations and all that ... My husband has the opportunity (related to work) to leave. It was clear his desire to catch the child and simply take away from all this Mordor.

To tell them “the guys are dear, I still want to stay here in the city, let's stay and you will stay”-well, somehow not like a love. At first there was an option: they will leave, and I will pull up. Or maybe they themselves will return soon. But every day everything was so twisted! I began to panic very much: they will just leave now, but I will never get out. A variety of stories have already begun to be hung up in my head: they would hang something on me, I won’t leave now, and then it will be too late-and everything is in this spirit (“ hanging” is primarily connected with the work of the journalist and new legal prohibitions. - O.P. ).

Everything actually happened in one day. My husband’s mother remembered that at the address where I was registered, a man in civilian clothes came, showed a certificate and talked about some kind of criminal case. I think they just scared before the procession (was scheduled in the city on March 6. - O.P.). Nevertheless, on the same day, the Echo of Moscow closed. And on the same day, more precisely - on the night they bought a ticket for 85 thousand. I went to the airport. But the flight consisted of three parts. And the first part - before Moscow - was deposited. I stayed.

I arrived from the airport directly to the studio, we spent the last broadcast ... After that, the panic did not stop. I could neither eat nor sleep. I bought another ticket and flew to Yerevan. And already from Yerevan there was a transfer to Tbilisi. It’s just that there is no direct air traffic - Georgia is not. All stories with transfers are very expensive. It’s just expensive to Yerevan, but to Georgia is very expensive.

- Did my daughter fly with dad?

- Yes. I often updated tickets. And it so happened that I bought it on the same flight that they flew. It turned out by accident.

Now we are all in Georgia. My daughter lives for some time, some kind of dad-as, in fact, it was in Russia. The husband in Georgia settled for now. But I do not think this is the last point.

Job

- How did your last broadcast go?

- We sat in the Echo studio, but we already went out on YouTube. People called us and asked what you have - the prevention of equipment, why are you not working? We replied that no, we were simply banned and pulled out of the outlet. They said goodbye, cried, thought how to live on, just talked ... It was probably one of the most emotional moments of my life.

Before my first direct broadcast, I was very afraid to establish, because in terms of leading it was still extremely green. And I reassured myself: if it is completely terrible, straight a disgrace, a rescue, I just leave the country (laughs). It turned out very funny that I left after the last broadcast ...

- As for the “last”, you probably got excited.

- Yes, with my colleague we will appear on the same screen. We plan to conduct broadcasts in the morning, as led on the radio, but only on YouTube.

- Will the format remain the same?

- We ourselves do not yet know how it will be specifically. I'd like to save the previous format. A live broadcast is an opportunity to be together, to speak. And doing this is not supercanished, but vividly. In fact, it is difficult to come up with a denser contact with the listener or viewer. And we have listeners for whom it is extremely important that there is ether. We ourselves, in any case, is very painful for me personally. It seems that you must continue to do something. Inaction is not the most healing method now.

The other day, L. said that the live broadcast from Batumi took place. In the future, they plan to go out in the morning with news and invited guests. And in the daily program to communicate with those who are now in Ukraine. What are they planning to talk about? About what is happening around. And they also hope at the new site to gather their permanent listeners.

Life

- How did you solve the issue with housing?

- It’s hard to rent housing, prices have taken off. Finding something in Tbilisi did not work. Although they considered both the most remote options and unsympathetic ones. But there was nothing at least anyway in our budget, which, in principle, is so scarce. And the cards are blocked. At our disposal only the cash that we managed to remove. When I arrived and was just starting to look, the prices for apartments were $ 400-500 per month, 600 - the maximum. Now I continue to view the offers - and this is already $ 800, 900, 1000.

- Where did you get settled in the end?

- We left for Batumi and rented part of the house - killed. On the outskirts of the city. But of the available options, he was alone.

-Is there any opportunity to open an account on the spot?

- Until I found where to live, I could not think further. Now the problem with money is being solved. I know that one of the Georgian banks to open an account demanded to sign a statement against (the word is prohibited in Russia). And I know that some people were terribly scared. Someone saw great risks in this. And someone said: “Well, so what? Yes, I am against it, everything is right, everything converges. ”

Now the situation has changed, and L. wrote to us about this: the mentioned bank removed its condition. No statements to open an account are no longer required.

- There are three banks that open accounts. They can refuse everywhere. But so far everything seems to be fine. We did not open an account. We will solve the problem with the withdrawal of money through money transfers.

- The money that is now in hand, for what time is there enough?

- For a couple of months, if you live very pursuing. To make it clear: we drove into this part of the house, but here, for example, there are no blankets, pans. There is nothing to cook food. We went to the store, looked - 45 Lary for a small saucepan. We bought Doshirak because it can be brewed in boxes. But here, I must say, the community strongly supports.

I found the Barakholka group, wrote “I am L. from Russia. I arrived urgently. Those who have unnecessary pots, please give me. ”

And they already answered, tomorrow I’ll go to pick up.

An interesting nuance: in the Barakholka group, according to L., things are mainly sold. She did not see someone asked for something, and even for "just like that." L. tried. Now she has a pan. And a bicycle. True, she asked him for rent for minimal money. They responded to the request immediately. And they gave the bike for free. As for the products, L. said that in Batumi expensive milk - from 4 to 5.5 Lari per liter. But cheap bread and pies with beans are 1.20 and 1.50, respectively. Apples - from 2 to 4 Lari, sausages - 12 Lari per kilo. And 1 gigabyte of mobile Internet costs about 5 Lari.

Environment

- You probably already managed to look around. A lot of come from Russia?

- In Batumi smaller, in Tbilisi there are a lot. About Russophobic moods, as I understand it, there will be the next question ...

- ... including.

-I personally did not see any clearly negative attitude towards myself. Nobody told me to go back to his Russia and to fight Putin there. And no one personally told me that they were not waiting for us here. But there are many similar moods in groups for the same rental of housing.

L. says that in early March, when she was just starting to look for housing, I came across an announcement of the following content: "I will rent an apartment without animals, not Russian and not Belarusians." He recalls that it shocked her.

- But, on the other hand, it is clear that people are scared, because these Russians and Belarusians sharply came up. What will happen in this regard, what are their plans? Maybe in a month they will leave, or maybe not. There are many such discussions, more reminiscent of srach, in groups of the type of “mother in Georgia” or in the same “flea market”. In short, any groups in which those who came to Georgia somehow interact are filled with messages from the category “Why are you all here?”

I don’t remember, unfortunately, the exact numbers. But when I was just thinking whether to go or not, the group from the category of “moving to Georgia” grew by a thousand participants. Only one local group! This is actually an invasion. You can, of course, be treated differently to him. But in personal communication there was never nothing negative. I will say more:

In recent days, ads began to appear in which they write on the contrary: "I will hand over an apartment to people of any nationality."

General background

- Shares, rallies are held?

- Yes. While they were in Tbilisi, the shares took place almost every day. By the number of flags and ribbons, it was clear who was supported here. On the last day, when they were in Tbilisi, a rally took place like in support of Ukraine, but at the same time with a demand to limit and somehow influence the number of Russians in Georgia. Here you can also observe: sometimes some exchangers simply do not take rubles.

Studies

- Have you decided how the daughter will study further?

- They have not decided yet. M. is now eight, she is in first grade. Before leaving, I cut it from a notebook in mathematics (such printed ones with tasks) unspent pages and came here with a file. Now he himself periodically fills them, sculpts a lot. Walking out near the house, collects different flowers. It seems to me that this is also some kind of education. At least I reassure myself with this.

Training will be most likely online with the private school where she studied. I will talk to the director. But there is another question: how to pay? For every month, when she does not go to school? This is weird. On the other hand, we have a contract for a year. What if let's go back ... It is not clear yet. Here the guy soon comes from our city, his son goes to the same school as M. he will bring us textbooks. We left without them. I specially went to school, took it and bring it. It will already be somehow easier.

About the essence

- And how did the daughters explain the departure?

- Well, she knows everything. On the first day when it began (the word is prohibited in Russia), M. helped draw two posters. And on both it was written "no (the word is prohibited in Russia)." She is aware of the agenda.

Of course, it is difficult for her. And it is clear that all the children who are with us are constantly asking, and in a week what will happen, and when will we return? We always answer that the planning horizon we have one day. So far, I also say that we are in a very non -standard and, in fact, terrible situation. The world occurs (the word is prohibited in Russia), it affects us very much. We just try to protect ourselves and first of all, dear children. Now is the time when it is very difficult. We are all in the same boat and do not understand equally what will happen.

- Do you have a daughter with whom to communicate with?

- A colleague here with children. So she has a small party.

“So she’s not quite lonely.” And you? Have you met someone, communicate? I'm not talking about online.

-I don’t really have enough to meet and talk with someone. Although the girl who gave me a pan, she called to the girl. And friends of friends who have been here since September.

But so far it’s easier to talk on the air than personally behind a glass of wine.

Under the text
From the group "Mutual assistance. Georgia ”(spelling and punctuation of the authors are preserved).

Sophie : “People, are you serious ?? Crying due to the fact that there is no lactic milk? It is necessary to be satisfied at all that riot police will not break into the house at 5 in the morning. Appreciate freedom, but there is something to "eat".

David : “Nadia fly better back to your Moscow, it will be better for you there. And finished dinners and semi -finished products will be. We came up and are now criticized, I don’t like it, I don't like it. ”

OTO : “You can make your complaints in your rashka. Georgian commercial organizations are not owed to citizens of the occupier country. ”

Xenia Churman: “The son flew from Moscow three days ago in Batumi. After the conclusion of the contract, the owner of the apartment led to his visit, Lobio-Satsivi-Vino River, the next day he drove on his own initiative for purchases and to the bank. In short, the Georgians, as there used to be kind, hospitable and bakery people, remained them. No need to focus on the srach in this chat. ”