You won't fall below the bottom

Anton Dyakov nominee for the Oscar - about why we are burning

On March 27, the gold figurines "Oscar" are awarded. In a normal situation, we would follow the Russian nominee Anton Dyakov crossing the ocean to participate in the ceremony, presenting his film “Boxing Batch”, crowned by many awards. But during the “special operation”, Anton Dyakov managed to remove the picture “The grief!”, In which he expressed an emotional state from what is happening. It turns out that the apocalypse can be ridiculous. A person accidentally set fire to himself, lighting in the courtyard of a block house. Does they save him? No. Because everyone is busy. The aunt in curlers will not come off from a current show with hysteria and a fight, the young people seek a living torch before a kiss, the pop on the Merce is to cross. "Given!" - A film about us. And when he was shown at the Suzdal festival, the youth screamed, applauded - they needed this film.

- Your paintings are most often built on a paradox - semantic, visual. Like in the Boxbound, where muscle pile and air fouete are connected. As in Kostya, a black comedy about the skeleton, which got out of the grave to live among people. Yes, he could not - he was killed by accident ... many times. Are you attracted to the “relationship of incompatible”?

- Of course, for myself, I did not formulate the tasks of pushing polarity. But here recently I had such an idea that the expected emotional response to the "boxing " will be "mixed feelings." And the final of the film is dual: either a good outcome, or a catastrophe. I would like the viewer to get stuck at this intersection of opposite paths.

-The final of the film “Box Batch” seems to be a happy end, but a TV appears: “Swan Lake”, tanks and Yeltsin. TV is one of the main characters of the new picture .

-Yes, indeed, without a TV, there is nowhere, the eternal causative agent of the low-end ... I remember, I came to my grandmother, sit in my room, work, and through the wall all these screams of the current show. Time goes on, the heroes are changing, I come and leave, and there is the same hysteria. This is poisoned food for millions of brains.

- However, the most mixed feelings caused the film "Power!" - Laughter through tears.

- It was in the script, the producer immediately said to me: "You froze between Hokhma and horror." I wanted this right now. In recent years, I have run around festivals, watched a lot of European paintings. I saw that the vast majority of the authors are greatly concentrated on picking in themselves. And in me everything protested: yes, you quit yourself, beloved, "I am so impossible complicated, deep, unique." Of course, I can evaluate the quality of such works if they are done talented. But "I grieve!" - The reaction to escapism is a film that does not want to be a thing in itself is designed to actively interact with the viewer, to pull it, this is a pebble sharp in his boot.

I wanted to warm up the emotion, cause laughter, empathy or horror.

- All your paintings break through to the viewer, you guess the author’s handwriting according to the first frames. Our non -profit animation today is polarized by arthouse and nursery, which the state actively supports. It seems that the insulation, the escape of the authors from the audience to the festival spheres is the incorrect trend, to some extent it is responsible for the fatal reduction of the smart audience.

- Agree. But he would not say that it is harmful. Still, the artists, the authors, apparently, had to go through this period. This is like a trip to a psychoanalyst. Once in your life you can afford: you will come, turn out all of you, you will look into this abyss - inside yourself, you will play all this introversion on the screen. Then an exhalation may occur. Now I am even more affirming in this, looking at the nightmare, which is around. It seems that in this hopeless chaos, if you carefully look, the beginnings of the future humanism of some kind of ...

- Come on…

-Firstly, you will not fall below the bottom. Secondly, people are never so located for humanistic ideas and thoughts, as after great blood. Remember the history, history of culture, the surge of world cinema after the Second World War, all these film schools, neorealism, “new waves”. The humanistic message is in demand: attention to a separate little person ... after the hellish war.

“But she was fair, that war, therefore, perhaps, humanism in people woke up.”

- Now everything is more complicated, but the banal thought does not become obsolete, which politicians will not learn in any way - about the lack of winners in any war. She beats in all directions.

My grandfather, recently left, like many veterans, did not want to talk about the war. For him, she was not awards, but with pain.

He said that war is the last thing people need ... the last. I am a diamathian, I was born there, I grew up there. My great -grandfather was sent there to raise the trade industry. Grandmother - the daughter of the "enemy of the people", fled from Tomsk to the warm lands. In general, interesting people are in the family. For example, Abram Borisovich Dyakov, a legendary pianist, deputy director of the Moscow Conservatory. There were no thirty - he went to the front with the militias. He had a reservation by position, he could leave, but went with his students ... And if about the gaps, I saw the young reaction to my film, bright, emotional, hot. So, there is a need for this, it means, not in vain ...

- You said that the news of the Oscar nomination of you, like a bag of sugar, nailed. You became a caliph for an hour: everyone was needed, they called from all over: “Tell us about your feelings, Anton!”

- If without coquetry - of course, nice. But, when all this is piled at once, it is definitely impossible to be ready for this. I realized that this is an unhealthy situation. So I leave the shower and see that the phone is already on the floor, he fell from calls. And right away: "What do you feel?" Yes, I answer your call, I am repeated the duty stupid words “Ah Em Happy, ah Em Vei Happy!” Give me time to feel. You are sitting, working, wiping your Pinocchio for years. And then suddenly your phone bursts from calls and messages to click. Everyone needs you, everyone has a business before your feelings. You understand that, in general, people as people, nothing has changed in their attitude towards you, do not care about everyone. You are just an info -breeder.

But two weeks passing after this stream of calls and letters and you think: “Yes, it turns out, this is important,” and you begin to put this feeling in a piggy bank of the heart.

As if the world is writing to you some kind of credit of trust.

- And then the world itself collapses before your eyes, and you think what to do with this loan?

- This is also a question. You are shaking at first, some kind of jerk: my God, is that a fracture of my life? Something should happen to me? But you wake up in the same body, in the same bed, with the same pile of affairs and problems. But I wrote excellent letters legendary directors Joanna Quin and John Masker, creator of Aladdin and Mermaid. John says to me: “Come to me, I will introduce students, drink tea ...” How great it would be. I have never been to America, but here is such an occasion and an opportunity to call on one hundred percent classics. But now the situation does not have an Oscar, people have so much grief.

- But you took off “grief!”, And dedicated to all the people who were in trouble today. On the one hand, it seems to be a universal story about an insensitive world, and at the same time very Russian. Where is the people, the church, defenders and God in the form of TV. The film is like a blow under the breath. How long have you done it?

- I don’t know, a year and a half with breaks. I had problems with health, and my grandfather was dying, and this whole pandemic, and still personal unresolved questions ... Everything crossed at one point. I was even amazed - how can it be: troubles are poured from all sides, and serious ones. And you think: everything, as in a bad play, - problems come out one after another in order. In some snatches, I just sat down with a cold nose behind the animated, I made some mechanical movements, but ...

If it does not smoke, there is no excitement, then the film cannot be filled with energy.

The guys who helped make the film - although there were no contracts, it was a friendly gesture - they supported me. The deadlines are settled, I call, "Lord, what to blame them in order to soften the blow." As a result, I say how it is, that I can’t do anything. And producer Sana Moro says: “Listen, calm down, everything is fine. We came to you because we like what you are doing, and here everything is out of love. Come to, if anything, we will help. ”

- On the one hand, you were treated with your problems with animation, and on the other hand, you lived for almost a year and a half in this hell, with a person who is living alive in front of the whole world. It's very hard.

- There is such a moment. And, probably, making such a film at such a dramatic moment is really strange. It is amazing that this synchron occurred - my personal experiences and how the clouds are thickened outside, and this whole storm begins.

-Tell me, why in the animation of recent times the social temperament, moral and ethical torment of the authors-as was in Norshtein’s films, the best films of Bardin-are not in demand?

- Probably, some people perceive this as an archaic who has outlived something ... especially in the era of "new ethics." I want to ask everything: “And what about the old one? She drowned? "

Ethics is a timeless concept. But this is not customary to say this, you will become like a grumbling old man.

It seems to me that it is always necessary and we can talk about simple things without fear of triviality. You just need to have a key, personal connection and understanding that a movie language is not worth it.

- Yes, and we watch the cinema by others - depending on the circumstances - with our eyes. And now "I burn!" It looks completely new.

- I think that what happened after February 24 affected us all. And the nucleus of my cinema coincided with time, his sensation. But I want to say how important the role in the film is for music. This is a wonderful Ukrainian group "Flexible Chaplin", a team of stray musicians. Shana sent their music, I listened and found absolutely everything that was necessary for the film - in dynamics, pace, mood, and meanings. They have absurdist texts, music is largely experimental, but accurate and emotional. And one line in their paradoxical texts just shot me. There, at the end, on the credits there is a phrase: "We are changing the memory of Altyn to the silence of two performed." And I look: here it is, I want to make a movie about it.