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Dmitry Anatolyevich Medvedev fell into his very inadequate high position (deputy chairman of the Security Council) condition. He threatens to destroy "bastards and geeks", by which he understands the collective West, if he understands what he writes. What fly began to bite him regularly? What role does rumors play here about the problems in the United States of his son Ilya? Madness is apparently something contagious, judging by all new and new reports from the investigative bodies of the Russian Federation, which began to search for not only politicians like Vladimir Milov, but even writers like Dmitry Glukhovsky. About this - Dmitry Gudkov , Denis Kamalyagin and Nina Belyaeva . The program "Faces to the event" Elena Rykovtseva is conducting.
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Madness is apparently something contagious, judging by all new and new reports from the investigating authorities of the Russian Federation
Elena Rykovtseva: The morning of Dmitry Medvedeva began with the fact that he got up from some of the feet and wrote a post in which he promised to fight bastards and geeks until the end of his life. Until they disappear from the face of the earth, he will not calm down. Under the bastards and geeks, judging by the context, the whole Western political world was meant. What prompted him to such a morning action, what happened? Either this is trouble with his son Ilya, who, according to some reports, by the way, is quite reliable, lives and works in the United States of America, maybe something else. We will try to deal with this species today, it is possible that both the insanity, as well as with another species that have already covered the investigative bodies of the Russian Federation, which someone has never been wanted, all in a row, as if in the territory of the Russian Federation, all kinds of crime and terrorist activities have completely disappeared, but writers and politicians, who, by the way, have already left the country, for some reason become an object of persecution. First, see the plot about Medvedev.
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0:00 0:03:03 Elena Rykovtseva: We still have chosen quite polite, quiet, affectionate statements, he spoke worse. As if specially started a telegram channel in order to “wet in the toilet”, as his senior comrade is expressed.
Dmitry Gudkov is with us. What happens to your namesake, how do you explain all these "bastards, geeks" and other vocabulary, which is not to the face of the deputy chairman of the Security Council?
Dmitry Gudkov: In fact, despite Medvedev’s attempts to look frightening, he still causes some kind of pity and an ironic attitude. I just want to say: Medvedev no longer pour. Today, the whole Internet joked Medvedev: who are these mysterious "they", whom he hates so much?
Medvedev now, apparently, is trying to please the security forces
You know, I remembered one story. It was 2011, Medvedev was president. Together with the young leaders of different parties, I got to the meeting, and now we are standing with Medvedev, I first stood right next to him. I have a 196 height, respectively, Dmitry Anatolyevich below me by 35 centimeters: nothing bad, normal situation. But if I in my youth was engaged in basketball, then Dmitry Anatolyevich, as I later found out, was engaged in photography. It seems that we talked normally, and a week later they gave me a photo. I was just stunned, because I was also a little engaged in photography and I know what Photoshop is. You can imagine: Medvedev was cut out in this photo, increased by 25 percent, so that his shoulders were equal to mine, and he became lower than 35 centimeters, but already by 15. I think: Wow! And then I found out that Medvedev edited some albums, that is, it was important for him how he looked.
He has completely obvious complexes, and now they make themselves felt. He always made the impression of such a miserable, frivolous, weak, and now he, apparently, is trying to please the security forces. After all, there will probably be some kind of transit, and Medvedev, in order not to get lost, is trying to show: here, look, I put on a jacket of size 56, see how formidable I am! He still had heels (I don’t know how many centimeters, but it was striking). I do not want to offend anyone who is below me tall, but it is very strange! There are many people in my environment, and I am above many. But this is normal when you, taking pictures, are not trying to put on heels, you don’t try to increase yourself in Photoshop by 25%later.
Elena Rykovtseva: I saw one photo with Vladimir Putin, where those who stood next to him sat down. You behave strangely: you had to sit down, and then not to torment a person with a photoshop.
Dmitry Gudkov: Yes, how they all bend. Recently there was a photograph where government members are sitting down, the photographer just captured it. I thought today: who are the "they", who Dmitry Medvedev hates so much? "They" are centimeters, all these complexes. I can't seriously talk about it.
Elena Rykovtseva: "I will not calm down until I destroy other people's centimeters."
Dmitry Gudkov: Alien centimeters are haunted, like other people's successes. An independent sovereign country Ukraine does not give them peace, naughty, as they think. This attempt to squeeze out some kind of Napoleon looks very sorry. After all, Medvedev had already built an image when he was president. Many people recall the years of his presidency as, in general, a good time, where "freedom is better than not free." When I met with him and talked, he made a normal impression on me.
He simply does not understand what he is doing now. This does not suit him, as if Zyuganov campaigned for liberal ideas, or all the cannibals suddenly became lovers of people, or Putin would suddenly talk about what tears he pours when he sees human suffering. The same thing happens with Medvedev. He is trying to please the security forces, show that he is his own, but he will never be his own for them. Not only will he lose support among some part of the elites, which once perceived him normally, but not toy, plush cannons, but the real cannibals look at it and probably mocking how he tries to be like them, but it doesn’t work out.
Independent sovereign country Ukraine does not give them peace, naughty, as they believe
Elena Rykovtseva: I now found a record in my notebook, surprisingly corresponding to what you say. On May 4, there was a stream of Idrak Mirzizade, who was sent out of the country for a joke , and he said the following: "The State Duma considers the bill in order to leave in Russia only people who have 155 centimeters of growth, so that Putin, who has 156.5, was above all." This is somewhere around what you say, only centimeters here, of course, are very conditional.
With us Denis Kamalyagin , editor -in -chief of the newspaper Pskov Province . Admit it, did Dmitry Anatolyevich once impress a normal person? Have you expected that it would get out of it in the morning in telegrams?
Denis Kamalyagin: He always made the impression of a man who was still a little out of place. And about what was today, Dmitry Gudkov said the right phrase - it does not suit him. Now, after the outbreak of war, Dmitry Anatolyevich is obviously looking for himself. It seems to me that this idea is not his, but most likely, his PR managers, looking for him for him the image of a person who should walk in a military uniform, show that he supports the war, belongs to the Hawks' party. But this really does not suit him. I see how Andrei Turchak, who is very familiar to me in the Pskov region, works now. Turchak accepts the same image of the hawk, but, unlike Medvedev, he goes to Mariupol, runs, tries to show how he supports the war, what a patriot he is, and Medvedev shows this in telegram channels, which, of course, is funny.
Elena Rykovtseva: Nina Belyaeva is with us. Can you represent you as a person put on the wanted list?
Nina Belyaeva: Yes, I'm really wanted.
Medvedev always made the impression of a man who was a little out of place
Elena Rykovtseva: That is our "terrorist" Svetlana Prokopyeva on the air , now Nina Belyaeva. Such cute women, I do not think that they make the impression of especially dangerous criminals on our audience. Nina, what do you think of the rebirth of Dmitry Medvedev into the "Hawk"?
Nina Belyaeva: There may be a number of reasons. On the one hand, these are really his internal complexes, as Dmitry said correctly. On the other hand, some things can be thrown through it to look at the public reaction within Russia: how will those who remained in it react to it.
Elena Rykovtseva: I propose to see the plot of the son of Dmitry Anatolyevich. There is such a story. President Vladimir Putin hid his daughters, began to show them with his backs from almost seven years, we no longer saw them growing up in official photographs. Unlike Putin, Dmitry Anatolyevich, when he was still normal, still did not hide Ilya from the eyes of the public for quite some time, so we easily recognize him in older pictures. There was never a refutation that Ilya left to work in the United States. There are even living people who know that he works in Miami, that he has a company, even several, such a network. And then some messages came, which we will tell you about now.
This is the trouble of our society: we have non -public politicians, they are embarrassed to show their children
Elena Rykovtseva: Here, in fact, is all that we know about Ilya Medvedev, plus some conversations. No messages were received from the official bodies of the United States that he was refused a visa, they are selected a working visa. Close to Ilya, people who know about his business, say that the lawyers there are joking: if they take the visa, then it remains only to ask for political asylum. Dmitry, the absence of any refutations and messages from people like Peskov or Dmitry Medvedev himself can confirm that his son is really abroad?
Dmitry Gudkov: I do not trust Peskov at all. Honestly, I try not to say anything about children at all if they are not involved in some corruption scandals. In general, what we do not know is the trouble of our society: we have such non -public politicians. They are embarrassed to show their children, Putin has not yet recognized his daughters until they fell under sanctions. These are such political dinosaurs from the past that do not understand what an open society is.
Elena Rykovtseva: He perfectly understands that in open Russia, in which he will openly say that his son in America, his own chef or the same security forces, bend his feet. He just does not speak, understanding why he does not say this.
Dmitry Gudkov: He just does not care about public opinion. By the way, I do not think that he is really somewhere in America, because both Putin and many top officials returned their children and their families just in case, preparing for the war. The fact that they do not react at all to the questions of journalists and civil society, only confirms that they absolutely do not care about public opinion. There is only one voter - Vladimir Putin. The opinion of journalists, politicians, generally people who are interested in, and where are the children of Putin, and where are the children of all other officials, they are not interested in. Young people drive to war, and their children go to serve. At least one of them went to the front? They are not ready to discuss this information with us at all, which, of course, annoys me most.
Elena Rykovtseva: Of course, they did not go to the front. In fact, we know where these daughters of Putin: they are really both in Russia, and we even know what they are doing. We know very well that the daughter of Dmitry Peskov was now forced to return to Russia, we know which fund of Russian-French friendship she is engaged in. As we know, it is very upset due to the fact that it was included in the sanctions lists. We still know something about these children. We know exactly what places are children of various kinds of patrushevs than they control. But it is very symptomatic that just about this boy is an officially complete lack of information. I am more likely to trust people who informally know what he is doing in America than what you say: that, most likely, he is here in Russia.
Dmitry Gudkov: I have absolutely no information at all. I just heard that before the war many have returned their families just in case.
Young people drive to war, and the children of officials go to serve
Elena Rykovtseva: Agree that we also have not heard about Svetlana Medvedeva for many months. They have a celebration of Peter and Fevronia on July 8, which this pair flocked instead of the enemy on February 14, and it always appeared on these holidays, it was shown once a year, even when he left his post. On July 8, we will fix: if it is not again, then everything-left her own.
Please look at the Muscovites survey: what impression does Dmitry Medvedev make on them.
Dmitry Medvedev wants some attention, and he got this attention, we discuss him
Elena Rykovtseva: Denis, it does not seem to you that people, in general, are not especially familiar with all these aggressive, hawk statements of recent times, otherwise the impression that they are talking about is based on some previous forms of looking at him?
Denis Kamalyagin: It also seemed to me that they were talking more about the period of his presidency, that I remember better. Such messages that Dmitry Anatolyevich were throwing this morning are actually more designed for us, media representatives in order to return it to the agenda again, because not a single normal person who is in the public sphere will write such causing posts in telegram channels. Obviously, he wants some attention, and he got this attention, we discuss him.
Elena Rykovtseva: They did a good deed for him: maybe he will calm down at least a little, at least on something.
We move on to a heavy part of our conversation, to a different form of madness: everything is alive, everything that moves is not just to brand “foreign agents”, but to put on the wanted list, open criminal cases, and threaten articles for which they will put. Let's see the plot about people with whom like this.
Elena Rykovtseva: In general, somewhere also on the covenants of Dmitry Anatolyevich, who in one of his extremist blogs urged to stop almonds. He then talked about the "foreign agents" - to stop almonds with them. Here the almonds ceased to be in relation to everyone in a row. Nina, are you still charged with the very performance at your session or something else, something else?
When a person is put on the wanted list, included in the list of "foreign agents", this is perceived as a medal for merits to the fatherland
Nina Belyaeva: This is a speech on March 22 at a meeting of the Council of People's Deputies and its posting in VKontakte.
Elena Rykovtseva: That is, they want to find you, find you in this forest and take you to put in prison?
Nina Belyaeva: They will not find me in this forest, here I feel safe - this is a protective Latvian Republic.
Elena Rykovtseva: But formally - do they put a person on the wanted list, want to find and plant him?
Nina Belyaeva: Most likely, yes. There is already a practice when people who pass under this article did not have time to leave, and they go to the pre -trial detention center.
Elena Rykovtseva: After you had to leave and you were put on the wanted list, your colleagues, friends, those who shared your position, nevertheless made you understand that, maybe, it was not necessary? ..
Nina Belyaeva: Recently, they have not even been trying to say this to me, since they realized that there was no point in convincing me. At the very beginning, I clearly indicated that I did not regret anything, and I would say the same thing, returning that day, March 22, for that meeting. You just can't do it differently.
Elena Rykovtseva: What impression do these wide lists make on you? Today they turned on Milov and Glukhovsky - what did you think at that moment?
Nina Belyaeva: Probably, they are trying to somehow scare, discredit them in the eyes of the remaining Russians. Although people, on the contrary, write that here they are - medals and orders. In an anti -war position, there is nothing supernatural, on the contrary, it is natural to be against the war, and unnaturally support the war. But when a person is put on the wanted list, they are included in the list of "foreign agents", this is perceived as a medal for merits to the Fatherland.
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