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"They do not admit that Ukraine can be effective"
1. Explosions at the Saki-4 airport .
2. Hypnotic dependence of the opinion of Russians about the course of the so -called "special operation" from what Vladimir Putin thinks about this.
3. On the probability of a meeting of Vladimir Zelensky and Vladimir Putin in Indonesia.
4. The statements of the President of Ukraine O (using the folk expression) "Suitcase - Station - Russia" for all Russians who are abroad.
A guest analyst Andrei Kolesnikov and Politics Nikolai Caucasian and Denis Shenderovich (all - Russia).
The program "Faces to the event" Elena Rykovtseva is conducting.
Video version of the program
Elena Rykovtseva: We did not know that the explosions at the Saki-4 airfield were thundering-this is a military airfield next to the village of Novofedorovka, so they did not stock up on a military expert. We have to discuss what happened to civilian analysts.
Russia does not admit that Ukraine can be effective in the military sense: only the Russian side can be spectacular
With us Andrey Kolesnikov . A completely amazing story happened before my eyes in Russian propaganda! Here is the show “Who is against?”, The host receives information about explosions at the airfield, one of the guests immediately begins: Ukrainians, what do they allow themselves in the Crimea? And suddenly the host begins to besiege them: do not say anything, we do not know what happened, do not discuss ahead of time! And in the course of the development of the broadcast, something comes into his ears, and he says: no, no missiles there, no trace was found; It is quite obvious that this is negligence, these ammunition exploded on their own, the mouse ran, waved its tail. And the program goes on news on this note that there were explosions, but Ukraine in no case participated here.
The program "60 minutes" begins with this: yes, there were explosions, we do not really understand whether evacuation is needed, but, of course, this is by no means no Ukraine - these are safety regulations. The Ministry of Defense of Ukraine decided to play in KVN. We have now read his message that "we warned that we need to smoke at the workplace more often, observe fire safety in public places. We also warned that it was desirable to wear clothes from cotton."
At the same time, one of the foreign correspondents, seemingly American, writes that he allegedly managed to interview the Minister of Defense of Ukraine, who said that this was only a warm -up, only the beginning. He hinted that Ukraine is still here in business. Why is the Russian side, which, it would seem, is profitable to say: here, Ukraine attacked, now we are in response to struggle, shandarahem - categorically does not want to admit, even consider the likelihood that it was Ukraine? One of the military experts suggested that, perhaps, Ukrainians first managed to cope with Russian air defense, and then launch these shells in this opened “window”. But the Russian side does not allow anything like this. Why do they so resist the participation of Ukrainians in this story?
To disturb the townsfolk is the last thing Putin's regime would like now
Andrei Kolesnikov: This story is similar to the story with the cruiser "Moscow" , when the Russian side stubbornly denied the hit of the rocket, because Ukraine cannot be effective in the military sense, only the Russian side can be spectacular, and high -precision strikes are an exclusively Russian side. These things cannot be recognized. In addition, now the height of the tourist season, the Russians fearlessly rushed to relax in all sorts of specific places, including in the Crimea. It is the last that the Putin regime would now like to disturb the inhabitants, the layman should now be convinced that Russian professional military is doing their job, a simple Russian citizen can rest anywhere, including in the occupied territories, and nothing will happen to him.
Elena Rykovtseva: It was very important to emphasize: you rest, dear citizens, nothing will happen to you. The mistake came out, someone really smoked. Even if we had military experts, we would not be able to deal with this story, because we have nothing but the statement of the Russian side that this cannot be, because it can never be. We move on to the stated topic of the conversation.
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0:00 0:02:56Elena Rykovtseva: That's what we paid special attention to this survey: in the main part, the result of what people think depends entirely on what the President of the Russian Federation thinks. If the President of the Russian Federation announces tomorrow that we are going to Kyiv again, he is supported by 65%. If the President of the Russian Federation announces tomorrow that we are completing a special operation, he is again supported by 65%. As the authorities will say, so we will do. You were not surprised by these results, you are ready to admit that this is how it is: how will it say, so we will think?
Now it is important to achieve bloodshed
Nikolai Caucasian: The results may be true, but may not correspond, because in the conditions of impending totalitarianism people, of course, will mostly range around the federal line, be afraid to say something else. Therefore, it would be interesting to find out how many sincere supporters of Putin who will support absolutely any decision of it, and how many people who adapt. It is important for me that in all these surveys there are dozens of people who do not support what is happening in Ukraine. It pleases me. I am now engaged in the election campaign, communicate with people. This is the center of Moscow, and here is the ratio of those who themselves raise this topic, whom it interests, about 50 to 50.
Now it is important to ensure that the bloodshed stops, so that the agreement on the ceasefire is immediately concluded, and on the basis of this, to conduct some negotiations on the world, about the exchange of prisoners, to stop propaganda that we go and are broadcast, including in these quarters. The Russians, those 20%, 30% for various polls now have a legal way to express their disagreement with the general line: come to the polls and vote for candidates from Yabloko. "Yabloko" is the only legal political structure that remained in Russia that does not support what the Russian authorities are doing in Ukraine. All candidates from Yabloko take this position. We have a team in the Basmann region, there is an excellent team in Zamoskvorechye, in Khamovniki, in other areas of Moscow, so now people, those 20-30%who do not agree with what is happening, may well, legally express their opinion.
People simply do not understand that what is happening fundamentally contradicts their interests
Elena Rykovtseva: You say that you see real living people who continue to continue. What do they want, why do they need this war, what do they want to get for themselves, for Russia?
Nikolai Caucasian: As I understand it, they were subjected to propaganda, they simply believe that, as Lukashenko said, the attack was prepared from here that if Russia had not begun a special operation, it would be destroyed, everything would have disappeared. There are units that really want to punish everyone, cover, attach, and so on, but the majority are victims of propaganda. Yesterday I read a speech on the Jewish labor movement of 1895 in the city of Vilno, a figure of Russian social democracy of the XIX-XX century, Julia Martova. This speech later formed the ideology of the rebellion of the Jewish Workers' Party. He just said there that the ruling elite with the help of such patriotism controls people, actually replacing their own interests with his own. More than a hundred years have passed, and I see the repetition of this in what is happening now. People simply do not understand that what is happening fundamentally contradicts their interests, they wonder why their prices increase, and so on, do not compare these two factors.
Continuation of the conversation, see the full video version of the ether
A survey of Moscow passers -by