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"Endless shame." Bloggers about the departure of Russia from Kherson
On Wednesday, November 9, the Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu and the commander of his Sergey Surovikin announced the decision to withdraw troops from the occupied Kherson. On Friday, November 11, Ukrainian troops entered the city.
The liberation of Kherson is like the liberation of Paris in 1944. Yes, the war is finished, but the Reich is doomed!
Glory to Ukraine!
Those guys from the Kherson Teroborne, who in the first fierce days of the war tried to protect their city with bottles of hug-tech and were shot by invaders in a lilac park ..
I hope they see now from their heaven, as the enemy runs through the Dnieper. They gave their lives for this day.
According to Article 65 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, the Kherson region is the subject of the Russian Federation, including the city of Kherson.
Tonight, the city of Kherson was captured by the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
How to fix this incident now?
Bring to the State Duma a bill on amendments to the Constitution of the Russian Federation in Article 65, excluding the Kherson region from the Russian Federation? But this cannot be done, since article 280.2. The Criminal Code of the Russian Federation “Violation of the territorial integrity of the Russian Federation” states that the alienation of part of the territory of the Russian Federation or other actions (with the exception of delimitation, demarcation, redemation of the state border of the Russian Federation with neighboring states) aimed at violation of the territorial integrity of the Russian Federation are punished by deprivation of freedom for a period of six to ten years.
Waiting watermelons would not have been banned in the Russian Federation ... Well, what are you laughing? Turkish tomatoes were banned when they closed with the Turks in Syria and watermelons can prohibit. And even “extremist symbols” can even bring to the “register”, equalizing the public eating of watermelons with “attempts to seize power”. They have Medvedev in the Council of Councils, they can.
“Kherson is ours”, “Russia is here forever”, “we don’t throw our own” ... The propagandists shouted in a nasty voice, they echoed the sofa vanka in social networks. Well, well ...
The main non -surrounding world ran so that the heels sparkle. For the hundredth time I repeat: Russia not only lost this war, the country lost itself. She no longer has any future and will never. Do not believe? Then remember that you did not believe in the return of Ukraine Kherson even 5 months ago. And I told you that it will be exactly so. In 2023, Ukraine will regain all its lands, including Crimea.
He went to Odessa, and left Kherson.
Congratulations, political jokes returned to our lives!
It is logical, what. If you resurrect the USSR, then in all details:
Petka comes to Vasily Ivanch and asks:
- Vasily Ivanovich, what is a nuance?
- Look, Petka: Russian troops liberated Kherson on March 1. Then the Russian troops liberated Kherson on November 9. But there is a nuance!
Together with the city of the Russian army, collaborators also left the city. Some of them recorded a video how two drops of water similar to the Crimean "I do not want to leave."
The rest of Kherson met the Ukrainian army with flowers and tears of happiness and ripped off Russian posters.
What a great holiday we all gave us the Armed Forces! The army is part of Kherson. Now this city is forever Ukrainian. And the locals, who suffered from different horrors of the fascist occupation, go out to meet their liberators ... and pay attention - all the terrible eight months people hid the flags of their native country somewhere ...
Glory to Ukraine!
This is where they hid them:
In the picture from Kherson, the most important thing is that the Ukrainian army has such a picture, but the Russian has not in February in any village.
Well, there are no such personnel of folk joy.
And all this is roughly explaining
I looked at dozens of vidos from yesterday and today's Kherson. Although this is someone else's happiness, and in general I am a saber -toothed pigork, I do not suppose to rejoice according to the opinion of the commentators, but it is impossible not to share the glee of the Kherson people and not to cry. This is so strong emotions.
I will not give links, for sure this is a terrible discredit of everything. You yourself can find a video where thousands of people went outside to your own.
We, in turn, do not have our own. And this army is a stranger to us, although ours, and mobilized (my friends) do not understand what they are doing there, but will never go over to the side of the people. On your own side. We are all lost, bloodless and paralyzed. But I believe that I will wait for the day when in our cities we will be able to go out on the streets with our flags, from rainbow to Russian, and cry from happiness that they are finally delivered from this endless shame and nightmare.
Do not sacrifice yourself. Do not be heroes. Do not get in prison and do not die in vain. But be sure to wait for better times. They will definitely come.
P.S. Separately, I want to thank God for the fact that he nevertheless gave the mind to the Russian military to just leave Kherson and not turn him into the second Mariupol. It is a pity that he did not give the mind not to enter and not to start.
Radical Loyalists indignantly write about the fake (according to their data) personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Kherson. And just in case, they could evade assessments and write something like "the power of Russia - in its diversity."
During the departure, the Russian army blew up the Antonov bridge over the Dnieper, and this was done when a significant part of the Russian group had not yet crossed to the other side.
The video reporting of the Russian "military commander" of Kotz: the Antonovsky bridge is blown up, "there is no our troops on the other side."
Colonel.cassad adds: And the Kakhovsky bridge too, both are blown up by Russian troops when departing from the right bank*.
If so, then the evacuation was carried out rapidly. How successful it depends on whether people, equipment, ammunition are left in a hurry.
What next? Kerch bridge is still in repair. The artillery of the Armed Forces finishes to the railway connecting the Donbass with the Crimea, and now - and to the Crimean isthmus. "Surovikin line" along the lower left bank of the Dnieper - like on a saucer.
Prospects are so -so.
*) Formally speaking, with T.Z. Russian laws were blown up by important infrastructure Russian facilities in Russian territory. SK opened the case after the explosion on the Kerch bridge. And now?
Sorry for the bridge
Show the frames of the blown up "Antonovsky bridge." I don’t know, for some reason, all this is particularly infuriated-this whole picture of the destroyed “infrastructure objects”. Exploded power plants, broken bridges-they, in my opinion, most clearly convey the essence of the entire so-called its: vandalism. In general, nothing, not a single positive idea, the reluctance of good to anyone (including for himself, oddly enough), but simply - the dark element of destruction. Ghouls leading wordless cattle to slaughter, leaving behind - and aloud, not embarrassed! - "Scorched Earth."
Here is the same "Antonovsky bridge." Almost 1.5 kilometers (!!) length. The most difficult - by Russian standards - an engineering structure. I built it - I looked - as much as 8 years old, from 1977 to 1985. I don’t know, maybe this is the same idea of our and adjacent lands as a wild field in which a cold wind howls and there is no place for a person - but all evidence of human development and facilitation of life here seem to me a miracle and great value, especially valuable with our general stupidity. And here - such a useful thing, bridge! They did it - even if they were erected like a cherapy pyramid.
And now - the Russian Federation came, the bridge blew up. Out of fear, from purely selfish interests - suddenly they will pass through this bridge and additionally put it on. Not the slightest creation, only destruction. Cowardice and anger.
And now again they will become beaten at power plants - in its purest form, a manifestation of hatred. In the army we cannot (too weak) - come on people, in civilian objects. And at the stations - it will be "revenge". It was, as Gogol wrote, “insignificance, pettyness and muck”, to which a person can reach, so sink. Avenge others for trying to capture them. And they dared to resist, and successfully.
Will this endless shame ever end?
The only joyful news for Russia was the successful theft of a raccoon from the Kherson zoo.
About "twenty thousand is abandoned, everything is gone" - this, of course, is Alarism and a strong exaggeration. The truth is that under Kherson, alas, is really a mess and inconsistency.
(For incomprehensible: there are no 20 thousand surrounded, no. But a mess).
Well, remember how our turbopatriots swore: "Yes, our soldiers are standing there, they still have not received the order to retreat!"
Many people wrote so. And, alas, this was just true. The conclusions turned out to be false - they say, this is all a cunning plan and there will be no survey of Kherson. And directly information yes, truthful. Until the last there was no order to retreat. Well, we have what we have.
PS I was very asked for good news on Kherson, but, really, the only good news is that my comrade managed to steal a raccoon from the Kherson zoo.
During the retreat from Kherson, we expected from the "second army of the world" terrible insidious, desperate crimes, sophisticated military inventions, at worst - the removal of the best toilets and washing machines of the city. And they stole the raccoon ...
"They expected bloodsheds from him, but he ate Chizhik."
The Date of the Party “Kotla” analyzed both the officially declared goals and comments in the Z-channels, and according to the results of the research, we are ready to introduce you to the visualization of changes in the ambitions of the Z-public with the course of the war. pic.twitter.com/3uzdv0qrqa
- boiler (@koteltuday) november 12, 2022
The departure from the only Ukrainian regional center, which the Russian army managed to occupy since February, became for the "patriots" tragedy, betrayal and even God's punishment.
The victory will be behind us.
This is itself.
Now about the obvious.
1. The very attempt to take Kyiv in February of this year and the hope of a coup and for the money spent on Kyiv (and Kharkov) - the result of the fact that the commander in chief was misled. Well, there are objective circumstances: from the other side they didn’t sleep either, American intelligence helped a lot.
2. The appeal of GDP to the generals of Ukraine with a proposal for negotiations in March. The result of the fact that the Commander -in -Chief was introduced into some misconception that generals are capable of independent decisions of this kind.
3. The withdrawal of troops from near Kyiv (Chernigov, Sumy) - apparently, with a guarantee that the Donbass group of the enemy will be defeated in return, and the DPR is completely cleaned - the continuation of history. The Commander -in -Chief, we believe that it is involuntarily, but was introduced by subordinates to a partial error.
4. In the Kharkov region, everything is clear. "Rusaging." But they reported that order. Even then they reported that they took out all the sympathetic, but also ... It is not true, to put it mildly. Deceived.
5. Immediately after this, the Commander -in -Chief ironically appreciated the Ukrainian offensive, saying that, yes, the offensive is going on, but "we will see how it ends." Apparently, the situation was not reported quite correctly. As a result, they lost the estuary.
6. They introduced it to some, we believe that a temporary delusion, when a decision was made to enter the Kherson region - no one would have become such a decision when they would evaluate the prospects extremely soberly.
In fact, if you look completely from above, on the scale of the great story - nothing catastrophic. Well, like that. Sampling and error.
Comrade Stalin had no less catastrophic mistakes in the Finnish (after the brilliantly conducted “Polish campaign” - and here the rhyme suggests itself with our operations in Karabakh and in Kazakhstan on the eve of his - where everything went like clockwork and endowed us with a sense of omnipotence).
The mistakes of the period 1941-42 were even more terrible. And human and territorial losses cannot be compared with ours.
But this does not mean that it is necessary to soak the obvious.
Obviously, we will not learn to soberly evaluate our resources and strength. No one, sure, does not want to deceive anyone.
Simply - remember how Andropov said - "We do not know the country in which we live."
If there is a dangerous symptom, then this one.
Everything is fixable at the front.
We will definitely win.
But it is better, of course, to tell the truth. At least for ourselves.
At night about the eternal from the subscriber Igor K.:
"I read a lot of evaluative comments from military officers and military officers leading their TG channels.
I do not want and will not give quotes.
But such a picture was formed.
Everyone sees the situation "according to Kherson" based on their own understanding of the intra- and external-fiber atmosphere and how he evaluates it. From their own spiritual state.
From his own understanding of the military situation, based on which section of the front it is located.
This is fine.
This is mainly one -sided, but this is normal.
The saddest thing is that all these comments, coupled with colorful, costume a sketch that showed us the military-drama theater on all TV channels, never gave an honest and direct answer ...
For what?!...
Why?!...
Nafiga, after all ...
The answer will be revealed.
As if they did not try to hide the truth now, but it will open anyway.
I suspect that most will not like it.
Most will not like it above, because it will become known.
And most will not like below, because when it opens, it turns out that they were driven by the nose and held by the cattle, who is not supposed to know the truth because of their bestial origin.
The question is different. Why so?
But because they themselves are to blame.
For their lies before God, they received false leaders, for the murders of their own children in the womb, they received the ruin of their own territories and the invasion of other languages (people without the people will come to the earth without the people), for theft they themselves received the ruin of their own land by arrived.
Did you want to return Little Russia, Novorossia, Carpathian Rus' and other Rus'?
But God does not give.
Not worthy.
Worthy of those who rules you.
Worthy of death for abortion.
Worthy of slave existence for betrayal, for retreat from faith and for the renunciation of the God -chosen royal power.
Until we bring the affairs of repentance nothing will change!
That is, not just repentance - Lord, I'm sorry!
Namely, the matters of repentance:
Stop swearing, stop killing children in the womb, stop lying, stop losing the authorities and so on. Further according to the commandments. "
The surrender of the city shocked some famous "patriots" and "statesmen" that they even began to hint that Putin could not cope with his duties.
Negotiations of the President of Russia on critical days of leaving Kherson with the heads of Armenia and the Central African Republic are scaring more than the Kherson tragedy itself. I didn’t even believe this news at first, it is so incredible. CAR, supplies of agricultural products there. Demonstration of complete removal.
Kherson was handed over. The Russian city was surrendered, the capital of one of the regions of Russia is the same as Belgorod, Kursk, Donetsk or Simferopol. If you don’t care, then you are not Russian. The Russians now grit their teeth from pain, sob and suffer as if they had pulled out their hearts, they would have killed their children, brothers, mothers and wives before their eyes. If you do not hurt now, you are a non -insignificance.
Power. She is responsible for this. What is the meaning of the autocracy, and we have it? We give the ruler the absolute completeness of power, and he, the people, the state, people, citizens, saves us all at a critical moment. If for this he surrounds himself with shit or spits on social justice, it is unpleasant, but if only saved. And if it does not save? Then the fate of the “king of rains” (see Fraser). The autocracy has the opposite side. Complete power with success, but also a fullness for failure. How did you want?
How to get out of the situation? Immediately move from the sovereign dictatorship to the commissar, that is, introduce ideology. The ruler almost did it. But almost again. But Kherson was not surrendered almost, he was handed over at all. No claims to Surovikin. He is not a politician, he is responsible for the technical side of the front. The blow is not on it. You yourself understand the blow to whom. And no PR will save here anymore. In a critical situation, political technology does not work at all. The story says today. And she pronounces terrible - for us - words.
This is not a betrayal, this is a step towards Armageddon. The conditions of the West winning, this civilization of Satan, will never be acceptable for Moscow. So, Tyo and Xiao will remain. That is the end. And here is the most important thing.
Under the pressure of circumstances (and it is very bad that it is so terrible that it is so) we have made a number of military -political corrections in the jurisdiction of it (why is it so late - a separate issue). But this (so far) did not give an effect. The last resource is ideology. Real, not that fake who is trying to foil to death frightened by the uprising of reality AP. Enough to brate: a Russian idea. Only she. It is foolish to go to the total destruction of mankind only because of the fear of the Russian idea, before our ideology. There is no other way. The authorities in Russia can not hand over anything else. The limit is exhausted. And he does not get purely technical means for victory.
The war should become folk in full. But it is precisely so folk - Russian! - The state should become. And not like it is now.
As always after such turning events, the question arises: "What is next?" Bloggers are discussing options that a month ago seemed hardly possible.
After Kherson, the space of decisions for both parties to the fighting was significantly reduced. In fact, there are two choices that Kyiv have to make (namely, he now owns the initiative, and so far there are not the slightest prerequisites for it to move to the opposite side): the operational pause for the period of the Rasputer or the offensive right now, while the troops withdrawn from Kherson have not yet been regrouped. The second choice is the direction of the offensive.
С направлением как раз выбора почти нет. Это попытка прорыва к морю и рассечение российской группировки. В случае успеха перед Кремлем встанет проблема утраты Крыма, а значит - если дело все-таки дойдет до переговоров, позиции Кремля будут ниже любого приемлемого уровня. Наступление в других направлениях к такому результату не приведут. Кроме того, местность для наступления крайне благоприятная и совершенно неблагоприятная для обороны.
Детерминированность пространства решений имеет и оборотную сторону - российское командование тоже понимает имеющуюся угрозу именно на этом направлении. А значит, будет пытаться противодействовать. Правда, лобового решения здесь нет - копать окопы вдоль моря смысла не имеет, но возможно непрямое решение - удары на других направлениях, которые вынудят Киев как-то на них реагировать, «раздергивая» ударные силы.
Однако совершенно точно пока переговоры не стоят в повестке. Киев не снижает планку требований, Кремль не может ее принять. Поэтому как минимум еще одно сражение напрашивается. Вопроса здесь только два - где и когда.
Украинская соль на российские раны: Украинская железная дорога начала продажу билетов на первые поезда в Донецк, Луганск и Симферополь. Билетами можно будет воспользоваться после освобождения этих городов.
Лайфхак для путчистов
Сдача Херсона стала личным позором Путина. Я думаю, что его ближайшее окружение уже сейчас готово от него избавиться. Таких случаев в истории было множество. Участники большого фашистского совета, отстранившие после военных неудач Муссолини от власти, и члены президиума ЦК КПСС, отправившие на покой Хрущева, были ближайшими соратниками и выдвиженцами съеденных ими диктаторов. Однако это не помешало им принять участие в заговорах против своих благодетелей. Успешный дворцовый переворот возможен и в путинской России, если его участники смогут взять под контроль основные силовые структуры.
Проще всего объявить Путина сумасшедшим. Во-первых, правду, как известно, говорить легко и приятно. А, во-вторых, это даёт юридические основания для смещения диктатора. В конституции РФ есть положение о том, что полномочия президента прекращаются в результате "стойкой неспособности по состоянию здоровья осуществлять принадлежащие ему полномочия". А вот законодательно прописанной процедуры такой отставки в России нет. Не понятно, кто должен признать президента (псих)больным и как его потом на основании этого заключения заставить освободить президентского кресло.
А раз такого описания нет, можно создать прецедент. Например, собрать независимую врачебную комиссию, которая вынесет свой вердикт. На его основании переворотчики могут объявить Путина безумцем и, пользуясь контролем над силовыми структурами, физически изолировать его. Потом, постфактум трусы и холуи из Думы, СФ и КС проштампуют любое решение победившей стороны.
PS. Я не утверждаю, что так обязательно будет. Но вероятность, причём не нулевая есть. Чем тяжелее будут поражения на фронте, тем быстрее она будет расти.
Подумал, может мы зря исключили из вариантов дальнейшего - самоубийство. Настоящее или инсценированное, не знаю, но как-то из сегодняшнего дня кажется, что не нулевая вероятность.
Интересно, если в центре Москвы повесить баннер "Россия здесь навсегда" то что случится через 3-4 месяца?
— MK (@kuzya_epta) November 11, 2022
И, в завершение, стихотворение, написанное одним из ведущих украинских русскоязычных поэтов, человеком с символической сегодня фамилией, Борисом Херсонским :
На возвращение Херсона
1.
Ну что, кусай свой локоть, враг!
Что откусил – не переваришь.
Тамбовский волк тебе товарищ,
и саван твой – трехцветный флаг.
Дитя бараков и общаг,
все по чужим карманам шаришь.
Не достает тебе пожарищ,
и пуст твой воровской общак.
2
Ликуй, соцветье юных муз!
Бегите самозванцы-братья.
Вот катится в мои объятья
однофамилец мой – арбуз.
Но горя неподъемен груз!
И что врагам вослед послать я
Can? Отборные проклятья.
Гори, "прекрасный ваш союз".
3.
Ослеп твой завидуший глаз.
И загребущая – отсохла.
Густым дерьмом забиты сопла.
Не все тебе – природный газ.
Твой первый раз – последний раз.
В глазницах – выбитые стёкла.
Над каждым гадом меч Дамокла.
В устах – набор стандартных фраз.
4.
Вокруг тебя – брехня и лесть.
Но ты ослаб и щечки сдулись.
Твои сатрапы обманулись.
You lost. Потерь – не счесть.
И что же – по заслугам честь.
Названья городов и улиц
тебе не светят – все свихнулись.
Придёт в себя народ? God news.
5
Старинный вальс, осенний сон,
ноябрь идет – к зиме движенье.
Приди ко мне освобожденье,
оно пришло к тебе, Херсон.
Но рядом – враг. Покуда он
живет – ложится черной тенью
на наши души наважденье.
И смешан с песней тяжкий стон.
12 ноября 2022. Umbertide