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"I have not heard such an ora in court yet"
Natalia Savoskina from the corridors of the Moscow City Court, where the case of Vladimir Kara-Murza continues to obey*
Photo: Daria Kornilova
The health status of Vladimir Kara-Murza* is worse, and the defense witnesses, Grigory Yavlinsky and Dmitry Muratov, were not allowed to speak freely even at a closed meeting under the subscription of non-disclosure
All information from the clock of the closed court-only in the press subscriptions “on the go”, before and after.
“Look, they let the great ones. Could also diplomats. Tell him about us, huh? Tell him that there are people here, ” - two ladies are trying to break into the court in Yavlinsky and Muratov. "Lawyers have a career and money, human rights activists of a reputation, and only we are here from the heart."
In total, 30 people, civil society, around a coffee machine. Pensioner Tatyana Tarvid, who is almost daily in the courts from Khotkovo near Moscow, tells how two years after the IV Rocher process at a large rally on Sakharov saw Navalny in the crowd. “And he sees me - and who am I? And he waves his hand and waves his head - to me. " "I have voted for the" apple "all my life, I am offended." Just peeling off from voting is the most prudent, ”the civil society decides.
- Volodya and I have known each other for 13 or 14 years old, twice he poisoned him almost before my eyes.
The first time he came to our office of Yabloko, and after that, almost before my eyes, he already felt bad, ”says Kirill Goncharov. -The second time we sat near the office in the Italian cafe, he came from some other city, in which he was poisoned, in fact, we had lunch, discussed the film “Nemtsov”, which he wanted to show in the office, discussed some elections, and after we parted, two to three hours later, the news about poisoning appeared. Emotions? When I found out, I thought that I also needed to prepare for something like that. I ate the same as he, we drank one tea. But it was not about food. When after Navalny they made their investigation and realized that it was a “newcomer”, through clothes, it was anxious.
When this happened for the first time, we were very worried, and when the second attempt, we simply could no longer believe that this happened to Kara-Murza. The only person in the world that was poisoned several times in a row. And when it could not be poisoned, they decided to plant. It seems that the investigating authorities do not care about Volodya’s poisoning, have never called anyone for interrogation. The matter has not been moving for how many years. In such a country we live.
When I was imprisoned ten days after February 24, I called up with him and corresponded. I consulted with him, discussed whether to leave me or not. And he also convinced me not to leave:
“I will come to Russia, Cyril, and you and I will discuss everything, we should not leave.”
And now, when he is in prison, I often ask him if he is regretting that he was returning, he writes that he is ashamed that many people are standing in lines on the border from his country. He understands them, but definitely feels that if you associate yourself with Russia, you must remain to the end. A few days before the arrest, we met with him, discussed this. Would he have a different position now? I think it is worth leaving if there is a physical danger.
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- Where does this line go?
- A good question. No one is hinting. The times when they hinted, have passed, everyone decides for himself. There is a choice. To leave when comrades in prison - well, I don’t want to agitate anyone. Many candidates for deputies from the opposition prevented preventively left, waiting for a wave of arrests, although they did not legally fall, but who knows. Yesterday, the former Mundik Mundkov team*, Pasha Yarilin, wrote a post from the airport: "Probably, nothing threatened me, but I did not wait." Because this moment when nothing threatens and is already threatening - it is subtle.
Catherine from Yabloko says that Vladimir is now responsible for her letters within two days through the Federal Penitentiary Service, that he laughs, that there is no time to answer everyone, since the procedures are preparing for the court.
Muratov comes out: “I found him persistent and ready to resist a person. He was not far from me, two and a few meters through the glass, I did not notice in him despair, relaxation, he was concentrated, he asks questions well, he seemed to me in good intellectual form. I can’t say anything about the physical condition. In general, I can’t answer your questions in connection with the subscription that I gave in the judicial presence.
- You were given the opportunity to speak, did not interrupt?
- Thank you for the question, for reference. Now it is necessary to adequately hold the debt of the parties, to fix that Vladimir Kara-Murza, whom I have known for twenty years, never had any motives for enmity and hatred against my country. We discussed with Porobinek today that Vladimir behaved and all his activities absolutely in the traditions of Soviet dissidents: he never hid what he says. He did not conduct any underground conspiracy activities, laid out everything on his resources, he never classified his performances - that in Arizona, in Helsinki, even at the Echo of Moscow. Let me remind you that when publishing the magazine Syntax, Alexander Ginzburg himself indicated his home address and the full name of the publisher - the tradition of openness, daring fearlessness.
“Yes, I tell the state the same thing that I tell people”-this principle has always been observed by Kara-Murza. ”
Yavlinsky went out and said that the judge had removed all Vladimir questions to him. “He was given the right to ask questions. All his questions were removed. ”
- From the prosecutor there were only comments so that I did not say what I was saying.
- And to say what you said, you cannot, right? And what was forbidden to tell? Since this was banned, then this is not secret, you can tell about it? - The agency does not let up.
“I'll think about your question!” - concluded the politician. “Let's all wish him health, strength and that he will be released.”
Nothing happens for three hours.
The listener, who was the only partisanly penetrated the door, descends dumbfounded: she did not hear such an ora in the courts.
(This is the judge screaming at Kara-Murza, who is now also taken away by the left hand, which in the pre-trial detention center lost 20 kg.) Says that the lawyer Prekhorov even left the hall and called the colleague Aismont-shared.
The usually impenetratively friendly Vadim Prokhorov comes out in an atypical state.
- This is my last criminal case! It’s how to tie your hands behind your back, let go on the ring and beat with a baseball bat! - The unofficial commentary of the lawyer, who always holds his chin after the trial. - The court heard the characteristics of our witnesses, but the defense petitions, including the appointment of a medical examination, are rejected. The state of health continues to cause serious concerns. Attention is close, because we have cases of death of the defendants detained. The prosecutor opposed the introduction of international documents, although, in general, the introduction of documents does not infringe on anyone. Kara-Murza in the aquarium laughed at this, the judge reacted-and what is he, crying, should it? The next meeting on Monday at 11.00.
On April 1, Russia - read in the news while waiting for Prokhorov, became the chairman of the UN Security Council, replacing Mozambique.
There are no comments only at the diplomats present here at every meeting. “We are observers,” says David from the American embassy, but judging by how he perceives the words of others, the diplomatic corps is increasingly difficult to calm.