“Information about you has been transferred to the FSB. They will take care of you"

How to deregister from military service from abroad? The lucky ones tell

Because of the war, Russian authorities tightened conscription rules. Now the summonses have become electronic, and people who received them but did not appear at the military registration and enlistment office are limited in their rights: they are prohibited from buying and selling real estate, driving a car, or taking loans. To avoid this, Russians who went abroad began to be removed from the military registration: if you prove to the military registration and enlistment office that you have been living in another country for more than six months, they will not send you a summons. But it turned out that this is not always easy to do: in some military registration and enlistment offices Russians are given lectures on patriotism, in others they refuse to accept documents. “Cold” tells the stories of people who tried to be removed from military registration - successfully and not so successfully.

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Evgeny (name changed at the request of the hero) , 27 years old, Great Britain

I’ve been living in London for almost a year now: I work in an IT company. At the very beginning of mobilization, in September 2023, I received a summons - but I did not go to the military registration and enlistment office. And when I moved, I decided to deregister from the military.

I made my first attempt four months ago. My parents went to the military registration and enlistment office in Rostov-on-Don, where I am registered. They were told: bring your military ID - and everything will be fine. I had my military ID with me in London, but I was able to give it to my parents in a roundabout way. And in August, my mother went to the military registration and enlistment office again: she took with her a military registration document, a copy of my passport with border crossing stamps and a copy of my residence permit in the UK.

But something immediately went wrong. done with the help of “State Services” - and not now, but in 2024, when such an option on the site starts working (in fact, such an opportunity should only appear First, the military registration and enlistment office employees scanned my military ID and said that deregistration can only be with January 1, 2025. — Note from “Cold”) .

When my mother objected to them - she said that she had already brought a written application for deregistration and asked to consider it - they changed their strategy. They entered my data - full name, phone number, military ID number - into some Excel spreadsheet. And they told my mother: “That’s it, information about you has been transferred to the FSB. They'll take care of you. We are in wartime."

I don't know what it is. Maybe their method is to threaten everyone. Maybe this is because at my previous job several years ago I had access to state secrets.

The military registration and enlistment office employees also had complaints about the set of documents that my mother brought. They said that a copy of a stamped passport and a residence permit was not enough - I also needed an employment contract that would confirm that my employer was located abroad. They didn’t take the rest of my mother’s documents and didn’t give me any papers in return.

After my mother unsuccessfully went to the military registration and enlistment office, I tried to apply for deregistration through the State Services. From there they sent me a refusal. The grounds for refusal are not listed there, it only says that I or my representative are obliged to personally appear at the military registration and enlistment office with evidence that I do not live in Russia.

I will make one more attempt. I translated my employment contract into Russian and will try to present it to the military registration and enlistment office as evidence.

Who can be removed from military registration? Does the military registration and enlistment office have the right to refuse?
A Russian citizen liable for military service who lives abroad for more than six months can be removed from military registration. This is not even a right - it is the duty of every Russian, enshrined in law. So the military registration and enlistment office cannot refuse this, but it may require confirmation that you have not lived in Russia for at least six months.

What documents must be presented to the military registration and enlistment office?
a specific list of documents that need to be provided in support The Ministry of Defense does not establish . So any will do: the organization “Go Through the Woods,” which helps Russians avoid participating in war, suggests presenting to the military registration and enlistment office a temporary residence permit, a residence permit or passport of another country, a student visa, a certificate from work or study, plane or train tickets, or rental agreement for housing abroad. All documents must be certified in the country where you are located and translated into Russian.

In addition, you will need a completed application for deregistration and a power of attorney for the person who will go to the military registration and enlistment office in your place.

Is it really possible to deregister using State Services?
You can fill out an application for deregistration at State Services. As a rule, after this application is verified, people are invited to come to the military registration and enlistment office in person (or send a representative) with supporting documents. But the organization “Go through the Forest” knows about cases when, after applications at the “State Services”, people were deregistered remotely and were not required to appear; however, such cases are rare.

Ilya (name changed at the request of the hero) , 37 years old, Kazakhstan

I saw an article on Meduza about how to deregister from the military. Since I have not been in Russia since September 2022, I thought that this would be important for me: so that there would be no problems, so that no summons would come, so as not to give the state a chance to discriminate against me.

I am officially employed by a company in Kazakhstan, I still have my plane tickets, and I have border crossing stamps. I collected all the documents together, attached an extract from the Kazakhstan register where foreign workers are registered (Enbek.kz), and a copy of the temporary residence permit. Basically, these papers were without stamps, but with QR codes: they led to the pages of government agencies, and with the help of these codes it was possible to verify the authenticity of the documents.

I issued a power of attorney for my sister in Kazakhstan. Russia and Kazakhstan have entered into an agreement that documents notarized in Kazakhstan do not require additional certification at the Russian consulate in order to be valid on the territory of the Russian Federation.

I conducted an educational program with my sister about what needed to be said, and sent her to the military registration and enlistment office of the Chertanovsky district in Moscow. The office did not accept her documents - they sent her to the head of the military registration and enlistment office. The boss also looked at the package of documents and said that he would not accept them. He said that each of the documents, even with a QR code, must be certified, and not by a Kazakh notary, but by the Russian consulate.

My sister left the military registration and enlistment office and called me. I explained to her that she had been scammed. Not a single notary certifies documents with a QR code, but a power of attorney made in Kazakhstan is valid. I conveyed to her that everything that was demanded of her was profanation, so that she would leave and not achieve her goal.

The sister got angry and went back to the head of the military registration and enlistment office. She started swearing, but achieved nothing. Then she went back to the office and told them that they were obliged to accept her documents. In the office they asked: “What did the boss say?” She replied: “The boss said nonsense, but you accept my documents, give me a document stating that you received them. And if you give me a refusal, I expect it in writing within the period specified by law.”

The office took the documents - and literally on the same day the head of the military registration and enlistment office called his sister: “Well, what are you talking about, we agreed with you...” She explained that the documents were normal: “Let’s deregister.” Then he asked at least on one document - on an extract from the Kazakh state portal where all employed employees are registered - to put the organization's seal, date and signature of the manager. We agreed, I did it, and 10 days later my sister was called to the military registration and enlistment office and given a certificate stating that I had been deregistered.

What to do if the military registration and enlistment office refuses to deregister?
Require a written refusal. The military registration and enlistment office is obliged to provide it within 30 days after receiving the documents. When the written refusal is in your hands, you can appeal it to the prosecutor's office or in court.

Who is better to send to the military registration and enlistment office?
A person who is definitely not in danger of being sent to the army and who can cope with potential psychological pressure from the military registration and enlistment office employees. If you don't want to stress your relatives, hire a lawyer.

Alexey, 24 years old, Kazakhstan

I decided to deregister at the moment when electronic summonses were introduced in Russia. Most of the time I am in Kazakhstan. The company I work for recommended that all employees deregister and even sent links to instructions from “Medusa” and “Go through the woods” on how to do this.

First, I agreed with my mother that she would take the documents and go to the military registration and enlistment office. But I read thematic chats where they wrote that many people have problems with deregistration. Then I decided to work with a lawyer: I found a specialist who deals with this through the publications “Go Through the Forest.”

At the first consultation, the lawyer warned me that he did not guarantee a result: in his experience, military registration and enlistment offices are very reluctant to deregister. I drew up a power of attorney and sent a huge package of documents. When the lawyer went to the military registration and enlistment office, I was worried that they wouldn’t accept him: they would start saying that only personal appearance was possible. But surprisingly, everything went smoothly: I was deregistered on the same day.

Perhaps the fact that my last communication with the military registration and enlistment office was through the court played a role. In the summer of 2022, when I was finishing my master’s degree, they tried to illegally call me up for military service. They sent me a summons to clarify the data, and for some reason I came to the military registration and enlistment office. There they gave me a summons to be sent to the troops, but I quickly sent an application to the court, and everything stopped. Since then, I communicated with the military registration and enlistment office only by registered mail.

After I was deregistered, they sent me two documents by mail. First, a certificate of deregistration. Secondly, a letter from the military commissar stating that every year I am obliged to confirm that I continue to live abroad and have not returned to Russia. How I should confirm this, what document to send them, was not written there.

What threatens me if I left Russia, but did not deregister?
Those who are registered with the military may receive a summons to the military registration and enlistment office: they may be called to the front as part of mobilization, they may be called for military service, or they may simply be called “to clarify data.” From April 2023, authorities no longer need to hand over subpoenas in person: they have the right to send an electronic subpoena to their personal account on the State Services website or send it by registered mail. From this moment on, the summons is considered received, and you will be prohibited from leaving the country. So if you live abroad, but visit Russia, you risk losing the opportunity to go back. appear at the military registration and enlistment office You must within 20 days from the date specified in the summons to appear. Otherwise, the state will seriously restrict your rights. You will be prohibited from :

— register as an individual entrepreneur;
— register as self-employed;
— register real estate and dispose of the one that belongs to you; drive a vehicle;
— register the car;
- take out loans and borrowings.

Therefore, if you live abroad, but plan to sell or buy real estate or register an individual entrepreneur, the subpoena will deprive you of this opportunity. to annually confirm your presence abroad According to the law, there is no need , since deregistration from military registration is indefinite. However, upon returning to Russia, the citizen is obliged to notify the military registration and enlistment office about this and register himself.