You may have missed this story that everyone was discussing over the weekend: Artemy Lebedev insulted the host of the Natal Chart show Olesya Ivanchenko

This is one of the most popular shows in Russia. That's what happened there

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Last Friday, April 17, a new episode of Natal Chart , one of the most popular entertainment shows on the RuNet, was released. In it, the hosts, comedians Olesya Ivanchenko and Dmitry Zhuravlev, analyze the guest’s natal chart and ask him questions. The hero of the new issue is designer and pro-Kremlin propagandist Artemy Lebedev.

Lebedev immediately stated that he did not believe in astrology. He answered questions from Ivanchenko, who compiled his natal chart and asked him to comment on the conclusions from it, in monosyllables and often sarcastically. Ivanchenko responded sarcastically, while simultaneously trying to get Lebedev to give more detailed and frank answers. Zhuravlev tried to defuse the situation and support his colleague, calling Lebedev’s behavior a provocation that should not be succumbed to.

The tension between the hosts and the guest reached its peak towards the end of the first hour of the show (the episode lasts two hours in total). Ivanchenko asked Lebedev questions about his personal life, which he did not want to answer. “What are you, shy, damn, what the hell! Tell me something!” - Ivanchenko asked. “No, let’s leave our personal life,” Lebedev replied. “What should I do the whole round ?” — the presenter threw up her hands. “Suck,” said the guest.

Zhuravlev called this response another provocation by Lebedev and called on Ivanchenko “not to be fooled.” She demanded an apology from Lebedev. He apologized. “You did something ugly. Unworthy of your Venus in Pisces. And generally unworthy of male [behavior] <…> You are an adult 50-year-old man,” Ivanchenko said. These words in the video were followed by a montage, after which Ivanchenko continued to host the show.

After another 15 minutes, she again reproached Lebedev for not answering questions. “It would be great if you opened your mask a little, but you don’t want to open it. <…> I say: it’s difficult for me. You say: well, take it out. <…> Let’s get to some human thread of conversation,” Ivanchenko said. “Ask a normal question,” Lebedev replied.

After this, the presenter burst into tears - but again quickly pulled herself together and continued to analyze Lebedev’s natal chart.

Ivanchenko published this fragment of the show on her Instagram and received many sympathetic comments in response - both from ordinary users and from celebrities. “Olesyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa " - wrote singer Sergei Lazarev. “I can’t imagine what it took not to finish filming and leave,” supported presenter Irena Ponaroshku. “What a goat,” presenter Ksenia Borodina condemned Lebedev. “In almost any other country this would have been his last interview,” added blogger Polina Brzhezinskaya. “Let’s give him a p***y so that his face and hair are monochrome, so to speak,” suggested actress and comedian Marina Fedunkiv.

Presenter Anfisa Chekhova called Lebedev’s behavior “emotional abuse.” “Realizing that the presenter cannot interrupt filming, this is her job and behind the scenes there is a huge group whose time costs money, Artemy, with the exquisite pleasure of a sadist, sprinkled sarcasm, turning into open insults!” - Chekhova said on Instagram. She expressed the hope that Lebedev would apologize to Ivanchenko. And if this does not happen, she called on women to unite and fight against “exemplary abuse on screens.”

Blogger Victoria Bonya did not stand aside either. “Are these traditional values ​​when, on live television, adult men allow themselves to insult women, call them “escorts,” “elderly,” and tell them to “suck”? <…> Why are such people today in the public space and representing the interests of our people? Isn’t it time for them to retire?” - Bonya asked. She addressed her complaints not only to Lebedev, who insulted Ivanchenko, but also to propagandist Vladimir Solovyov and State Duma deputy Vitaly Milonov, who insulted her after her appeal to Putin. Boni’s indignation has already found a response on social networks, where users (both women and men) are calling for Lebedev, Milonov and Solovyov to be “cancelled”.

At the same time, some, commenting on the conflict between Ivanchenko and Lebedev, expressed the opinion that the presenter herself behaved aggressively towards the guest and made incorrect remarks addressed to him. “Okay, let’s pretend that Olesya didn’t label Artemy throughout the episode. One word was unnecessary, he behaved disgustingly, but Olesya was also toxic throughout the entire issue,” was one of the comments under Ivanchenko’s Instagram post.

“After the reels I didn’t even want to watch the episode, I was so angry with him [Lebedeva]! But after watching, I changed my opinion about this situation: from the very beginning, Olesya was very nervous and was biased towards the guest, he intelligently kept silent a bunch of times in response to absolutely boorish statements under the guise of an expert opinion. <…> The word “suck” sounds harsh, but if you know the background from “Roasting” , then there are no questions about this statement,” another comment said.

The presenter responded to the resonance with a post that can be called conciliatory: “This is how the episode happened. Probably the most difficult for me in the entire history of our show. Reactions vary, and that's normal. But excuse me, why should I even have enough endurance? <…> You prepare for two weeks, try to go into some depth of the hero, do a lot of work (no matter how easy it looks on the screen), which depreciates approximately every second. Yes, it's a show. But I am also a living person who has the right to any living reaction. I don’t hold any grudges against Artemy. It didn't happen. And this also happens. Thank you all!”

Artemy Lebedev is known for his provocative statements. In 2024, in an interview with journalist Yuri Dudu, he called the Safe Internet League “a bullshit on a stick.” Dud also quoted another interview with Lebedev, in which he said the word “pussy”, and asked whether this was a distortion of the name of Ekaterina Mizulina, head of the Safe Internet League. Lebedev replied that this was “Aesopian language for describing turbo-patriots,” but denied that the word “pizdulina” was derived from the surname Mizulina.

After this interview, Mizulina announced her intention to go to court. Lebedev apologized to her, but this did not stop her from filing a lawsuit for protection of honor and dignity. Both Lebedev and Dud were defendants. In the spring of 2025, the court decided to collect 300 and 200 thousand rubles from them, respectively. “You can’t offend girls. You will be tortured to swallow dust,” Mizulina wrote in her Telegram channel after the court’s decision. Initially, she wanted to receive compensation of 10 million rubles, but did not insist on it.