The other day, I had the honor to interview Leonid Davidovich Bershid, finalist of the Polit -Posvet Prize. We met, as is customary in decent people, in the evening, which means - in a cafe, where, of course, it turned out to be too noisy for recording. But we drank a bottle of excellent wine, biting cheese, crushed before the conversation and in search of silence and rest wandered to the sports ground of a nearby school, where L. Bershidsky at the same time tried to practice rocking.