If the system is very tightly controlled, it stops moving. Interview with Professor Skoltekh Boris Fayn Photo: Sergey Mostovshchikov / "New Gazeta" When we talk about ideals, riots, or droves, in fact, we are somehow talking about dynamic thermalization, quantum decoherence, chaos and, perhaps, the effect of Zeno. Just in order to realize this, you need to talk with a scientist.