We publish a conversation with the largest Russian urbanist - Vyacheslav Leonidovich Glazychev, spent in the last months of the professor’s life. How does science help to determine the development strategy of Moscow? The conversation was held by Boris Dolgin, Anatoly Kuzichev and Dmitry Itskovich. The city lives, develops, something happens. The city has political tasks, problems, there are traffic jams, finally. But there is no single scientific center of management in all this natural way.